Some of those lesser sports have surprise sensations taking the country by storm. Where's the comparable player for baseball?
Feb 7, 2012 - I don't want to cross the streams too much here. This is Baseball Nation, with its own baseball constitution, and where we frown upon people who buy baseball cars from other nations. We're a xenophobic bunch, too. So if we're going to mention those other sports, we'll do it sparingly.
There are three other major sports in America. One of them uses a flat, cylindrical thing instead of a ball. So we shan't talk about that. The other two have made me jealous. Oh, not because of the ways those sports are played -- with clocks, if you can believe it -- but because they have had some beautifully polarizing players. We're talking players that just annoy the living hell out of the learned -- pronounced lər-nəd -- aficionados of the sport. Players who aren't supposed to be good according to said aficionados because of legitimate, scouty-type reasons, but who capture the attention of the great unwashed.
Football has Tim Tebow. Basketball has Jeremy Lin. I am as qualified to evaluate their own individual merits and likelihood of continued success as I am to review a copy of Twilight translated into Tagalog. I've never read Twilight, but I think I have a pretty good idea of how much I'd enjoy it. I trust the smart people furrowing their collective brow. But because I'm ignorant about the whole thing -- especially because I don't understand the language involved -- I'm going to have to step back and admit that everyone could be wrong.
I want baseball to have a story like that. I want baseball to have a player who lights up the Twitter machine whenever he hits a home run or dances a strikeout jig. Some nominations.
Bryce Harper
No, no, no. Of course Harper is going to be good. Of course he's going to have a sneer and personality that only a Nationals fan can love. This isn't news. And it's not going to be a controversy. This is not analogous. Just sit back and wait for the annoying.
Manny Ramirez
In this scenario, Ramirez signs on with the A's, plays his first game in June, and starts mashing right away. He's the Manny of old -- terrifying pitchers, thrilling fans, and getting a mitt stuck to his belt buckle even though he's DHing. That would certainly be a story.
But it wouldn't be a story that created a civil war of opinion. Both stat- and scout-types would evaluate a resurgent Manny with the same sort-of-surprised-yet-nonplussed demeanor. It would be a little surprising, but we're still talking about the double helixes that are mooshed together to make Manny Ramirez, after all. He's done it before.
Random Slappy Speedy Guy Who Hits .300 and Steals a Lot of Bases
Now we're getting closer. Let's just pick a guy who is a stolen-base hound in the minors -- Derrick Robinson, for example -- and pretend that he seizes the chance of an emergency call-up. After a month, he's hitting .310/.330/.360 with 25 steals, and Kansas City is agog.
Except there needs to be a hook. Random slappy guy is a baseball tradition. Jose Constanza was something like this guy last year, and other than the hardcore baseball fan, no one noticed. Tebow's religion is the perfect catalyst for unhinged discussion on both sides. Jeremy Lin is an Asian-American who went to Harvard, which was a combined demographic that was tied with "former Traveling Wilbury" in the NBA ranks until he came into the league. These guys have hooks. There's a compelling story behind the sports.
Random slappy guy doesn't have a hook. Plus, this isn't 1985. People don't care about stolen bases quite as much these days, and Billy Hamilton isn't going to save us all just yet. Needs to be a hook … and dingers.
Dingers.
Mike Hessman
Yesssssss. This is the one. Hessman is the active career home-run leader in the minor leagues, with 329 home runs in 16 minor league seasons. He has over 3,900 plate appearances in AAA alone, and he even has a few home runs in the majors. Not as many as he could have had, though.
That's the kind of Schleprock turn of events that happens to a guy with bus sores on his butt. But he might get another chance. The 33-year-old was recently signed by the Astros to a minor-league contract after fizzling in Japan. He's not on the 40-man roster, but stranger things have happened. Maybe there's an injury, Carlos Lee needs to cover center, and, lookie here, there's a first-base opening.
Then picture Hessman coming up and hitting ten homers in a month. He turns that prodigious International League power into home runs that sail over the Crawford Boxes. He's arrived. He's a Real-Life Crash Davis with cover stories on Sports Illustrated and ESPN the Magazine that feature clever titles like "A Real-Life Crash Davis." And your job, you evidence monkey, is to walk around and cynically puncture all of those bubbles of hope.
Your Dad or Workmate: How about that Hessman? What a great story.You: Yeah, but his K/BB ratio in the minors doesn't indicate that he can sustain …
Your Dad or Workmate: Guy sure can mash the ball. What a great story.
You: Actually, if you translate his International League stats, they really aren't that …
Your Dad or Workmate: Real-life Crash Davis is what that guy is. Real-life Crash Davis.
You: …
Odds of happening: 1 in 1000, but those are better odds than I would have given for Bartolo Colon and Ryan Vogelsong doing what they did last year. And if it does happen, we'll have our very own media sensation to talk about. Our very own Tim Tebow and Jeremy Lin.
As it kept happening, we'd be forced to admit that maybe, just maybe, something's changed, and that this Hessman guy can really mash at a corner spot, that he's one of the rare folks who figured something out in his 30s. Baseball, that sneaky and duplicitous sport, would make us doubt our own judgment.
It would be glorious. Here's to Mike Hessman, our best chance of making what should be an interesting season even more interesting.
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I would argue that
It’s much easier, comparatively, to measure how good a baseball player is than a football or basketball player, which means that it’s harder to have arguments about whether or not a player is even good or not, which is the Tebow debate.
I mean, sure, there’s a constant debate about which players are overrated or underrated, but I’m not sure it’s possible in baseball anymore to have a player that lots of people think is terrible and lots of others think is really good – there’s just too much data.
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by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions
Maybe a closer with a crappy K/BB rate?
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
How about a starter who constantly outperforms his FIP?
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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
So you want 1991 Mitch Williams?
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by WHYG Zane Smith on Feb 7, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's gotta be a closer
to parallel with Tebow’s “just knows how to win” and late game dramatics.
So, the next K-Rod then
Which people claim that their team can defeat our professional football squad?
by CoachOfEarl on Feb 7, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps
But, I mean, Jose Valverde, for instance, was fairly controversial this offseason, and seemed to be overrated by people judging closers just by saves.
But he was still a 1 fWAR relief pitcher, and more than that on B-R. I don’t think anyone would argue that he’s just bad.
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by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Baseball's closest Tim Tebow match would be ...
Tim Tebow. He’d put on a show in batting practice. He’d hit some majestic home runs, run the bases hard. But he would never walk and he’d have to DH because of his complete inability to throw to a base.
by HitTheCutoff on Feb 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions
I imagine he would have been a pretty good RF or 1B
he had a 3 cone drill faster than Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson so he is evil quick, good foot speed, I would bet 3TO with some speed
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by TomCat009 on Feb 9, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
I should think a ridiculously unsustainable BABIP would have to be a factor
Maybe Ichiro years ago when he was sporting >.360 BABIPs, but now he’s old and and hitting closer to if not below the league average on balls in play. He does (or certainly did) have that curiosity factor that Tebow and Lin have, but I don’t know if anybody ever really thought he was a terrible player like those two.
Maybe Eckstein? I mean, nobody thinks he’s any good, but he gets under enough people’s skin that people blindly hate him a la Tebow.
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by Swamp Thing on Feb 7, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Eckstein is a good comp except his fans would actually have to believe that he is an elite SS.
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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Eckstein was really good for a while.
So overrated he became underrated until he was overrated again.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think Ichiro was the Beyond-The-Game story back when he first came into the leauge. There were lots of talk about him, every casual baseball fan knew him, and many who weren’t even casual fan. Lots of debate whether his high-avg, low power approach to hitting was really valuable or not, and how much his defense was real.
by SoCal Metfan on Feb 7, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think Ichiro in his prime was that kind of devisive player.
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by Mothy on Feb 7, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
And I can't spell.
Idiot.
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by Mothy on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 AM EST up reply actions
Made me think of Daniel Nava
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 7, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions
I like it. Hessman is the baseball Tebow.
But, he has 14 Major League home runs…
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hessmmi01.shtml
by scottyboy10 on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM EST reply actions
But only one in New York, which is obviously the only one that matters.
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by Ott on Feb 7, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Man, how did I screw that up?
Huh. Thanks.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Neyer's gonna be pissed.
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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
If we find the next coming of “Shoeless Joe” MLB marketing will screw the whole thing up anyhow.
by ferj064 on Feb 7, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions
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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We almost had one in 2011
In Sam Fuld
Story book late rounder rises through minors? Check
Middling major league career? Check
Traded, then gets his shot when Manny implodes? Check
Voluntarily legs out a double, sacrificing a cycle? Check
Multiple nicknames based on innate ability to run into walls/people and/or eat dirt/turf? Check
Jewish? Check
Diabetes? Check
And a few more things I’m missing.
A zillion games a season and regression can be a real bitch, though.
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by dustym on Feb 7, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Constanza annoyed the everloving hell out of everyone in the Braves saberblogosphere. I thought some guys were going to have their brains explode. Especially when he was starting over Heyward.
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by BullManUGA on Feb 7, 2012 2:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Two words
Shelley. Duncan.
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by Brandon C. on Feb 7, 2012 2:36 PM EST reply actions
My guess would be Mark Trumbo.
Although it’s not a perfect comparison by any means.
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 7, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brian LaHair
by 8volumesthick on Feb 7, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions
He crossed my mind, too.
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by daver on Feb 7, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oooh.
That’s a good one. But if he were badass this year, at least he has the stats in the minors to make you think “Well, maybe ….”
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Russ Canzler
by 8volumesthick on Feb 7, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions
Mike Cosanzo!
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 7, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions
Brackman
by Eastwindquinn on Feb 7, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
shit
I misspelled Costanzo.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
If it were 2009...
…I’d throw out the name Bobby Scales, who played in 51 games for the Cubs that season after spending about a decade in the minors. He was a Ham Fighter for most of last year and is now back with the North Siders on a minor league deal. His backstory includes being a substitute teacher and all-around great guy. Does he meet the Tebow criteria?
Your mention of a “Random Slappy Speedy Guy Who Hits .300 and Steals a Lot of Bases” also brings to mind Tony Campana, though we’d need to strike the “hits .300” part. Not sure what Campana’s “hook” is besides looking like that 12-year-old kid who says stuff to piss you off and then runs away so fast that you can’t catch him to kick his ass.
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by daver on Feb 7, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions
Jeff Fancoeur.
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by Ogre39666 on Feb 7, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This may take the cake
I redact dan johnson and vote for this.
Something clever...
by Dttl89 on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Jose Batista?
Correct me if I am wrong but dont we have Jose Bautista to argue about. A kind of blah player who bust out and hits tons of home runs, and might be cheating by stealing signs to do it???
by scottcardsfan on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions
Dan Johnson
that is all.
Something clever...
by Dttl89 on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions
Joba Chamberlain
The guy had 24 decent innings in the Majors and suddenly everyone and their mother had an opinion on him. Of course the Yankees jerked him around with the “Joba Rules” and people realized he wasn’t actually that good to begin with, but in that 07-08 offseason he was the talk of baseball. And then you had his Red Sox counterpart in Clay Buchholz.
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by nymgb44 on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Grant, I think the player you described is essentially Jose Bautista two years ago.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 8, 2012 7:55 AM EST reply actions
Which actually kinda makes sense and fits the picture. But I think for this player to get truly viral like a Tebow, there needs to be some added factor in there.
Religion, or the fact that he plays in a huge market, or maybe he just looks like this white, scrappy, down-to-earth guy.
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by Steve Slowinski on Feb 8, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
Why Lin
Just because he’s a minority? He’s had two good games and it’s great, but that isn’t unheard of for someone to get warm for a couple of games – in fact, that happens every year
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions
Exactly ...
But people are realllly excited about him. He’s on the Knicks home page when you buy tickets. Yet he was never supposed to be more than a role player.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
meh?
even as a role player, the NY Asian-American community was excited. I guess I’m just confused as to why he’s being compared to Tebow
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I’m a Warriors fan, so I know all about that. Linmania was here for a bit. But he had some crazy games that made him the talk of the NBA. And the Tebow comparison isn’t just me …
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Religion religion religion
The tebow-lin comp is in their outspoken evangelical nature. There is little other comparison between the two. They are both exciting players for different reasons, the only commonality is religion and current excitement level.
by tarik on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t even know Lin was religious. I think the commonality is that there is more attention paid to them relative to their purported talent, and there are extenuating circumstances why. That’s all I was getting at.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I sort of get your point
but I think the religion is the explicit comp, check today’s NYT:
Yet the Lin phenomenon transcends race or nationality. He resonates with devout Christians, because he speaks openly of his faith, a sort of Taiwanese Tim Tebow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/sports/basketball/jeremy-lin-has-burst-from-nba-novelty-act-to-knicks-star.html
You are not the only one making the comparison, but perhaps the only one making the comparison without the religion.
by tarik on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine the Harvard Grad thing is a factor
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by TomCat009 on Feb 9, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
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