The Angels are going to take a 6-4, 220 pound first baseman (who wasn't great defensively there) and try him at third base. Does this seem like a good idea to you?
Feb 6, 2012 - The Angels have a problem.
In some ways, it's a nice problem to have -- they have too many first basemen. With the signing of Albert Pujols, who will play first base, Mark Trumbo, last year's first baseman in Anaheim, will have to find another position.
The easy move would be to shift Trumbo to DH, but Kendrys Morales, who was the Angels' first baseman before the horrific injury he suffered in a walkoff celebration in 2010, is making progress in his return and would logically be slotted in at DH if he can hit.
This wouldn't appear to leave any room for Trumbo, who struck out a lot and didn't walk much in his rookie season. Trumbo did, though, slam 29 homers and hit 31 doubles on his way to a .477 SLG. Most teams would love an extra slugger who can do that.
This is why the Angels are considering moving Trumbo to third base. Fox Sports West has a slideshow listing 10 active players who had been shifted to third base from another position at some point in their careers. Except for Michael Young and Alex Rodriguez, though, all the others had played at least some third base previous to the fulltime move, and some (like Kevin Youkilis) had significant experience there.
Last summer, when the Cincinnati Reds were considering a similar move with the since-traded Yonder Alonso, Grant Brisbee did some research into players who shifted like this. He found that just one player over the last 10 seasons was given major-league third-base time who wasn't a middle infielder, and who hadn't played the position in the minors: Eric Munson, who was terrible defensively. Pablo Sandoval, though, hadn't played third since he was a teenager in the low minors, and he turned out to be pretty good defensively. Conclusion: inconclusive.
There's little precedent for a man of Trumbo's size -- 6'-4", 220 -- to move across the diamond like that. Usually players that big go in the other direction -- the similarly-sized Carlos Lee played over 500 games in the White Sox minor leagues, but was switched to the outfield before he played a single major league game.
There's only one player (besides Munson and Sandoval) that I can think of who was asked to make a similar transition, and it happened almost four decades ago, for similar reasons -- Dave Kingman, a Trumbo-like slugger who came to the majors on a Giants team that had (obviously) no DH slot, a full outfield and a still-effective Willie McCovey at first base.
To be charitable to Kingman, he was awful. In 154 games at third base over five seasons (for some reason, the Mets kept playing him there at times after they acquired him), he made 48 errors. Kingman wasn't very good anywhere in the field; he didn't get to DH full-time until he was 35, mainly because in the late 1970s, AL teams still hadn't gotten used to the idea that they could acquire a guy who could simply do that job fulltime. In that era, most AL teams rotated the slot between several players.
The best-case scenario for Trumbo would be that Morales doesn't come back, or can't play full-time, and Trumbo can simply slide into the Angels' DH slot. That's where he's currently listed on the Angels' depth chart, and probably where he best fits.
Because with not a single professional game at third base, Trumbo playing there for the Angels would likely make Miguel Cabrera -- who's making that switch this year for the Tigers -- look like a Gold Glover.
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To be fair
Angels management has suggested that they want to try this out to give them flexibility in making lineups. DiPoto or Scioscia said that they would want Trumbo playing 40 games at 3rd at the most. I’m an Angels fan, but am highly dubious of the possibility of Trumbo playing an adequate 3B. However, if they try him primarily with flyball pitchers to limit the number of attempts, it may not be a complete disaster.
They wouldn’t do it for other reasons, but I think that Pujols at 3B with Trumbo at 1B would be a better defensive alignment.
For me the fundamental problem is that Trumbo isn’t really a better hitter than Alberto Callaspo. Trumbo get the big shiny home runs, but Callaspo makes many fewer outs. On top of that, Callaspo is an OK defender.
by jco on Feb 6, 2012 5:26 PM EST reply actions
Yes, it would. Your point about Callaspo is also correct.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 6, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think the precedent
for the Angels is Robb Quinlan, who was a young first baseman who got moved to third base despite never having played as a professional in his second major league season. Quinlan was bad there, but he was probably better than any other choice the Angels had when Troy Glaus got hurt. And at least for a while, his bat made up for his glove.
Now there are some significant differences here. One, Quinlan wasn’t nearly as big as Trumbo, and he was probably a better first baseman. Secondly, Quinlan had played third base for the University of Minnesota, even if he’d never done it as a pro. And finally, Quinlan was never expected to play there every day, more of just a part of a platoon with Adam Kennedy with Chone Figgins bouncing between second and third.
On the other hand, we don’t know if the Angels are just looking to increase flexibility or actually thinking of making Trumbo their starting third baseman. If it’s just a way of getting his bat into the lineup against a team that doesn’t hit a lot of balls to the left side of the infield, then this might work if they choose their spots right. But if they drag him out every day out there, it will be as ugly as Cabrera in Detroit, which I don’t think will last out of Spring Training.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 6, 2012 6:06 PM EST reply actions
"...we don’t know if the Angels are just looking to increase flexibility or actually thinking of making Trumbo their starting third baseman."
Both Scioscia and JeDi have said that Trumbo would play, at most, 40 games at 3B. The long-term plan is most likely going to be Trumbo in RF.
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by 5thStarter on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Dave Kingman?
What did you think of Kingman’s performance?
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by rspencer on Feb 6, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions
Heh.
Well, I wasn’t as profane as Tommy Lasorda was, that’s for sure.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
This is an off-season controversy
In the real world Bobby Abreu is probably too old, Vernon Wells has become the biggest albatross in baseball and Kendry Morales is probably crippled for life (at least in the sense that he won’t be athletic enough to be an MLB slugger). That will leave plenty of AB’s for Trumbo as a DH, back up 1B and butcher at 3b and the OF. And a guy who had a sub .300 OBP doesn’t deserve to have a starting job handed to him anyways.
by Pflood83 on Feb 7, 2012 1:12 AM EST reply actions
Trumbo ranked 7th in Fielding Bible votes
by Dick Armada on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST reply actions
For 1st basemen that is
by Dick Armada on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
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