Andruw Jones is healthier in 2012 than 2011, which might let him show more of the talent that made him one of the game's best players for more than a decade.
Feb 22, 2012 - Andruw Jones is back with the Yankees, and maybe better than ever!
Well, not better than ever. But better than last year, probably. David Waldstein (via The New York Times):
Last year Jones required constant treatment on the knee just to stay in games. This year he says he not only can be the regular right-handed designated hitter, but with a stronger knee he believes the Yankees can rely on him to play the outfield more.
"No doubt," he said. "I’ve been running a lot. All I’ve been doing this offseason is just running. No lifting, well, maybe two times a week. But I did more running and agility stuff and trying to get in good playing shape and be a little lighter on the legs so maybe I can be out there and play more defense."
Unless somebody's hurt, the Yankees don't really need more defense from Jones. Last season he started 48 games in the outfield, which is actually quite a lot considering they've usually got Brett Gardner, Curtis Granderson and Nick Swisher out there. Granted, Gardner and Granderson are both relatively ineffective against left-handed pitching, but their fielding edges over Jones makes some sort of platoon unlikely. And at this point, Jones is essentially the Yankees' only decent option for a DH against left-handed pitchers.
But sure, it'll be great if he's able to play one of the outfield spots for a week or two straight if needed. Because there's a decent chance that the starters won't all manage to avoid the DL again this season.
All of which is highly parochial and not likely to come up when, seven or eight months from now, we dissect the Yankees' season. But Andruw Jones is only 34, and it does seem strange that we're talking about him as if he's just sort of hanging around, picking up a few spare plate appearances here and there. Which he is.
It's strange because, unless you're a newborn pup, you can easily remember when he ranked among the best baseball players on this planet.
From 1997 through 2007 -- that's 11 full seasons, folks -- MLB's top five in Wins Above Replacement (via FanGraphs) were Barry Bonds (85), Alex Rodriguez (85), Andruw Jones (69), Chipper Jones (63) and Scott Rolen (61).
Even then, Jones was generally underrated because much of his value came from his defense, and the pundits somewhat criminally undervalue outfield defense unless it's Ken Griffey. Andruw Jones did win 10 Gold Gloves, but even that undersells his value; Jones might have been the best center fielder since Willie Mays.
For a while, anyway. When Jones lost it, he lost it suddenly and almost completely. In the four seasons since 2007, Jones has been roughly 3 Wins Above Replacement. Not per season. That would have been a bad season for him, in his 20s. He's totaled 3 fWAR in the last four seasons.
And of course he's not likely to get back to where he was. Now he's looking at another two or three or four seasons as a bat off the bench, with some occasional time in one of the corner outfield spots. Hardly Willie Mays, who played a lot of center field when he was 40.
But not being Willie Mays doesn't mean Andruw Jones wasn't a great player. Doesn't mean Andruw Jones doesn't actually belong in the Hall of Fame someday, maybe. Over the last 20 seasons -- which includes a few seasons in which Jones didn't play at all, because he was a teenager -- Jones ranks ninth in fWAR, just behind Scott Rolen and Ivan Rodriguez and just ahead of Jim Thome and Manny Ramirez.
Oh, and just behind Derek Jeter, too. In fact, if Jones plays moderately well and moderately often for the next two or three seasons, he might actually pass Jeter.
I'm not going to argue that Andruw Jones is going to have a better career than Derek Jeter. I will argue that if Jeter deserves to be elected to the Hall of Fame as soon as possible -- which he does -- then Andruw Jones deserves serious consideration from the voters. Which I fear he will not receive, because of his career arc.
And Jones isn't the only one. He's the best of the unfortunately forgotten center fielders, but what about Jim Edmonds, Kenny Lofton, and the recently retired Mike Cameron?
Jones has 72 fWAR. Jim Edmonds has 68. Lofton has 66. Cameron's got 53. With the exception of Cameron, all of those guys would fit comfortably into Cooperstown if you believe in Wins Above Replacement. Looking just at outfielders, Jones and Edmonds and Lofton all have more WAR than Sammy Sosa, Vladimir Guerrero, Andre Dawson, and Kirby Puckett. A lot more than Kirby Puckett.
Hall of Fame voters have always overvalued hitting and undervalued defense, except with shortstops. Maybe someday they won't, and players like Jim Edmonds and Kenny Lofton will get their due.
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I’ve never seen anyone play outfield like Andruw did in his prime. He got a preternatural jump on everything. It was always a joy. I only hope that somehow he can manage to get his way into the HoF in an Ozzie Smith like display of defensive prowess. But I doubt it.
Boo! Tomorrow AM. I want all things now!
by Perrinbar on Feb 22, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions
What?
by MichaelGGBGrabow on Feb 22, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions
.226, .289, .396
I’ll take that over his very effective, but limited(219 PA) sample against them last season.
by Undocorkscrew on Feb 22, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
rob, granderson wrecked lefties last year...
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by papality on Feb 22, 2012 5:30 PM EST via Android app reply actions
In Los Angeles, Andruw will not be forgotten. The only solace we can take from his stint here is that it probably torpedoed any chance he may have had at Cooperstown.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Feb 22, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions
Jones is a hall of famer?
Fringe candidate, at best, unless you like using useless stats.
Favorite Andruw moment for me: game in Atlanta, pop fly to him, he drops it, runner makes it to second. Scorer: A double. Atlanta at bat, ball hit on the ground to RF, RF muffs it but gets it in, batter standing at…1st. Scorer: Error on RF.
I can think of at least 7 if not 10 CF much better defensively than Jones, and many better at O without steroids.
by dsciswe on Feb 22, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions
this made me chuckle for a good 2 minutes
by nivarsity on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Go ahead, name them
by Undocorkscrew on Feb 22, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
This part is especially painful for me, since he is a week younger than my daughter (And the first player younger than my daughter to play in the majors).
by Stephen Roney on Feb 22, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions
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granderson ineffective against lefties? what are you smoking
by capz1990 on Feb 22, 2012 8:34 PM EST via Android app reply actions
in fairness he was pretty wretched against lefties before 2011
Which makes you wonder if 2011 was a major aberration.
by nivarsity on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
It is okay to wonder
…but in fairness, since his very good hitting against lefties started in August 2010 to the exact day after he changed his stance and approach to lefties, and that the change can be visually seen, and since then he’s hit lefties with more power than any lefty in the game, then it is entirely okay to question Rob’s statement that Granderson is “ineffective against left-handed pitching.” I would guess Rob just threw that statement in there to create discussion, or he just he just missed it.
Until Granderson proves otherwise, I wouldn’t be sitting him against lefties.
by RobMer on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 AM EST reply actions
Granderson is BETTER against lefites thanks to Kevin Long
Rob – you referred to Granderson as ineffective against lefties, but due to evin Long’s tinkering, he was actually better against lefties than against righties in 2011: 258/372/531 against righties vs. 272/347/597 – not bad!
by snerze on Feb 23, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions
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