What should the Dodgers do with Andre Ethier?
Feb 16, 2012 - It's a weird situation, being one half of a long-standing duo, especially when the other half gets a huge long-term deal. It's obviously just business, but it must be hard for a player not to think that it means the team values the other player more. Andre Ethier is a free agent after this season. He's probably not sitting in a corner, pouting with his arms crossed. But if Sullivan got a big ol' raise and I didn't, that's exactly what I'd do, so Ethier's probably a bigger man than I.
It made sense for the Dodgers to target Kemp first, of course. It's not like Ethier is the Garfunkel or Oates of the duo, but it isn't a Lennon/McCartney thing, either, where you can have honest debates about who's better. It's closer to Wilco/Son Volt, but now we're really down the music rabbit-hole. Point is that Ethier has been good for the Dodgers, but Kemp has been a star. The Dodgers locked Kemp up; they'll need to decide what to do with Ethier soon.
Steve Dilbeck of the Los Angeles Times thinks that the Dodgers need to lock Either up.
Ethier is coming off the worst season of his career (11 homers, 62 RBIs, a .421 slugging percentage). He is coming off knee surgery.
He is unlikely to ever be cheaper to sign to a multiyear contract than he is right now.
Fair points, but the Dodgers' blog army isn't so sure. It's a tough, tough line to straddle for a fan, trying to remain practical and impartial while acknowledging that the sentimental part wants Ethier around forever. Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness sets the spectrum of desirable-to-freaky:
What interests me more right now is trying to figure out just how much a big 2012 could enhance Ethier’s value on the market, because there’s a big difference between a deal for, say, 3/$36m (which I’d certainly love to do) and something more like 5/$85m (which I’d run away screaming from).
And Chad Moriyama prefers logic over sentimentality:
So while I’ve always liked Ethier, as he felt a part of the young core, the timing is all wrong for me. Locking up a corner outfielder with a four year declining trend in wOBA, mediocre defense (despite the joke of aGold Glove), the inability to hit lefties, and questionable athleticism just isn’t a risk I’d feel comfortable with.
Some of the names that come up in the above articles: Brad Hawpe, Jason Bay. Those will give you chills as a Dodgers fan. You can keep going, too. Bobby Higginson. Rusty Greer. Danny Tartabull. There isn't a shortage of outfielders in baseball history who roared through their 20s before hitting a brick wall in their 30s. A good comparison for Ethier -- except for one minor detail -- would be Roger Maris.
But there are other comps, too. Ryan Klesko did just fine in the first half of his 30s, and he seems like a player with whom it makes sense to compare Ethier. J.D. Drew had some of his best years after turning 30, as did Brian Giles and Ken Singleton. Turning 30 doesn't mean that Ethier is going to end up in some Logan's Run nightmare automatically. Every player is different.
What the Dodgers have, then, is an outfielder who will turn 30 in April, who is coming off his worst season in four years, possibly because of a knee injury. They have to decide if the injury was a one-off thing, or if there's a family of raccoons living in there now, and this is the Ethier they can expect, only less so, over the next five years.
There's no right answer. If the Dodgers lock him up now, there's the risk that his knee will be a chronic thing. If they don't extend him before the season, there's the chance that he'll return to the Ethier of old, and either A) get too expensive for the Dodgers' taste, or B) force the new owners to give him a ridiculous contract just south of Jayson Werth.
The Dodgers already know that they'll have Matt Kemp around for the next decade. The Officer Baker to his Ponch, though? No idea. I'm glad it's not me who has to make that decision.
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Son Volt? Really?
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
by Solidarity on Feb 16, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Son Volt and Jay Ferrar
simply some of the best music ever. Ferrar was part of the great Uncle Tuxedo which is probably the founder of alt-country
by G H Wolf on Feb 16, 2012 9:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it was uncle tupelo
by jordan1999 on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Andre Ethier is the George Lynch to Matt Kemp’s Don Dokken.
My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!
Pithy.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm. I like this.
Needs more Jake E. Lee, though.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 16, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
i think the important thing is that the Dodgers continue to be associated with hair metal forever
My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!
Pithy.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
The Jeff Bebe to his Russell Hammond?
by ahhall on Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions
Let him walk
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 16, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions
Are you serious?
I really can’t tell
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by imstillhungry95 on Feb 16, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
let him start now
just like the song by Uncle Tupelo “the long cut” Why not let him leave? Watch gonna miss?
by G H Wolf on Feb 16, 2012 9:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I am serious
I just see the power trending down and the injuries and I wonder if his 2009 season was a fluke.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 17, 2012 7:08 AM EST up reply actions
I wrote a piece in July suggesting the Dodgers ought to trade him
It seems I’m with Moriyama on the reasoning there. He doesn’t seem like a player who will age well.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 16, 2012 9:28 PM EST via Android app reply actions
oops
make that August. http://www.purplerow.com/2011/8/26/2383270/nl-west-report-dodgers-must-trade-andre-ethier
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree
they should deal him. I thought they would deal him last season.
They can get a solid prospect back for him, I think.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 17, 2012 7:08 AM EST up reply actions
I think Boston and Detroit would be interested
Dodgers might even be able to swing Turner if they added an arm.
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by TomCat009 on Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking as a Dbacks fan
They definitely need to lock him in for another 5-8 years. Whatever the cost!
I got nothin'.
by Bcawz on Feb 16, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions
ha!
no way he gets more than a 4-5 year contract from anyone.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 17, 2012 7:09 AM EST up reply actions
so is sullivan Kemp in this analogy
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Feb 17, 2012 2:34 AM EST via Android app reply actions
LONEY
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
A GM's Future Mistake
He’s consistently brutal versus lefties. As a result, nearly 30 percent of his AB’s were against southpaws. Opposing teams have been icing the Dodgers for years late in games by saving their situational lefty for Ethier. If healthy, he should do enough damage versus righties to impress one GM to give him close to Michael Cuddyer money. Remember, all it takes is one. I’d let him walk from LA. Once the ownership situation gets resolved, they could have a huge amount of money to spend. I’d rather see them upgrade their corner infielders. They’ve been well below the league average for some time in these traditional power positions.
by Sin City Bonobo on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions
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