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Do Royals Have The Rotation To Compete With Tigers?

Everybody loves the Royals' young talent. But do they need a veteran starter -- say, free agent Roy Oswalt -- to get them over the top and into contention in the American League Central?

Feb 14, 2012 - A lot of people are going to like the Kansas City Royals this spring. A lot more people would have liked them if the Detroit Tigers hadn't invested $837 million in a first baseman built like this guy, but sometimes there's no accounting for a billionaire who won't live forever. Still, when the pundits are casting about for a team that might come out of nowhere like the Diamondbacks did last year, the Royals will be on the list because they've got a bunch of young players who might be real good (or who, in the case of Eric Hosmer, already is real good).

Still, the Royals' starting rotation does seem a bit deficient if the goal is to win 85-90 games. Which has led to calls for a targeted investment in an established starting pitcher like Edwin Jackson (too late) or Roy Oswalt (still possible). But management showed no interest in such a move, and Bob Dutton recently asked GM Dayton Moore why not:

Moore and his staff made their moves early in the offseason by acquiring Jonathan Sanchez from San Francisco in a Nov. 7 trade for outfielder Melky Cabrera. Roughly two weeks later, they reached a two-year deal to retain Bruce Chen.

Those two moves filled the Royals' desire to land two starters to team with Luke Hochevar as the rotation's front three. Club officials felt no urgency to do more.

"If Hoch pitches like he did in the second half of the season," Moore said, "he's perhaps an All-Star. Once we had those three guys we were committed to, to do anything else would block those young guys from getting an opportunity."

Relying on their deep pool of available rotation candidates, the Royals believe, is not only cost-effective but also offers the potential to match or exceed the performance of any veteran likely to be acquired through trade or free agency.

Hochevar, once the No. 1 pick in the whole amateur draft, did pitch well in the second half last season, with a 3.52 ERA and a strikeout-to-walk ratio close to 3. He's probably not going to be an All-Star, but even at 28 he's still got a chance to be pretty good.

Aaron Crow, once the 12th pick in the whole amateur draft, was an All-Star last season. This, after pitching not all that well as a minor leaguer. Moving to the bullpen really seemed to help him, but the Royals -- in what's probably a smart move -- are going to try him out as a starter this spring. Still, considering his just-decent strikeout-to-walk ratio and his (apparent) penchant for giving up home runs, he's far from a sure thing as a starter. A good one, anyway.

Other candidates for the rotation include Danny Duffy and a bunch of other guys who figure to be adequate, at best. Duffy's intriguing, of course, with his silly minor-league numbers. But he got hammered in his 20 starts last season with the big club, and they can't all turn into Greg Maddux as sophomores. In fact, most of them do not.

Given their current group of starting pitchers -- all dozen of them or whatever -- the Royals are highly unlikely to win 90 games. It's just really hard to do that without a really good starter or two, and the Royals' best candidate for that label remains a figment of Dayton Moore's imagination.

But I'm not convinced that adding a veteran starter would change the equation. Enough, anyway, to justify spending $11 million on Edwin Jackson or Roy Oswalt or whomever. One of those guys would make the Royals better, for sure. And this bit from Moore isn't real thrilling:

"It just doesn’t fit," he said. "For me, we would be abandoning our plan with the young players. That’s not who we are. I think it’s important that we understand who we are, where we’re going and what we’re trying to do.

"Abandoning that (approach), and precluding any of those young pitchers from being in our rotation, is doing just that."

It is important to understand who you are. It's also important to respond to changing situations. It's also important to recognize that your young pitchers might be a year or two away from actually being in your rotation. By most measures, the Royals have three young pitchers with solid chances of pitching well as major-league starters: Duffy, Mike Montgomery, and Jake Odorizzi. Duffy struggled in the majors. Montgomery posted a 5.32 ERA in Omaha last season. And Odorizzi has pitched only 69 innings (4.72 ERA) above Class A.

There are other young pitchers, but those are the best of them. And the Royals will be lucky if just one of them wins 15 games in any of the next three seasons.

Again, I don't know that Edwin Jackson would have been enough to make a difference. Or Roy Oswalt. But without one of them, this season figures to be a battle to reach .500, with 2013 or (more likely) '14 the first season in which we might reasonably expect the Royals to compete for a division title.


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That's disappointing

As a former Royals fan (grew up in Kansas, now live in Arizona and root for the D-Backs) I still root for the Royals in the AL. But not signing a Jackson or an Oswalt (or even a Saunders) in an off-season when starting pitching was reasonably priced (by MLB standards) and did not require a long term commitment is just being cheap, IMO.

The D-Backs have multiple prospects that are rated higher than anything the Royals have and two of them (Trevor Bauer, Tyler Skaggs) are quite possibly ready for the majors. But the D-Backs traded for Cahill and signed Saunders because prospects are just that. And who goes through a season with just 5 starting pitchers anyway?

There’s no way a one year deal for Oswalt, Jackson, or whoever is blocking anybody in Kansas City. That’s just an excuse for saying Royal’s management rather lose than spend just a little money to allow their young kids a chance to be competitive.

by Craig from Az on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

What does EJax get you though?

81 wins instead of 77? I think EJax made some sense if they offered a long-term deal of 3-4 years (although if he rejected the Pirates three year offer, I’m rather doubtful he would take the Royals offer unless they overpaid), but one year of EJax for what is likely a non-contention year makes little sense and I would rather see Paulino/Hochevar/Crow/Monty/Duffy/Mazzarro/Mendoza/Teaford/O’Sullivan etc.

Now, you could say the acquisitions of Chen and/or Sanchez don’t really fit in that theory, in which I’d totally agree. EJax > Chen. No doubt Dayton totally misread the market in offering Chen and Broxton $10 million combined when he possibly could have had Jackson for that amount.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 14, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The conclusion is a bit odd

You don’t think adding Oswalt or Jackson would make much of a difference in terms of competing this year, but you don’t think its real thrilling that the Royals are going to stick with they in-house young options they have?

DM is assembling a pitching rotation the way I think you have to on the cheap. How do you get five cheap pitchers? By finding ten cheap pitchers. Its not likely that Luke Hochevar, Felipe Paulino, Aaron Crow, Danny Duffy or Mike Montgomery is likely to be good this year. But they’re all young enough to have upside that they could enjoy a surge in performance. And since we don’t look like a 90 win team this year, this is a good season to sort out the wheat from the chaff and determine what you have so you CAN make that push for a vet starting pitcher to fill in any gaps in 2013.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 14, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know . . .

Sometimes you do have to pay up to get what you need. There’s no guarantee that any of those guys will be as reliably good as Edwin Jackson or Roy Oswalt. Sign Oswalt to a two-year deal; if any of the kids surpass him in the rotation, great! If not, you’ve got Roy Oswalt for two years, which doesn’t suck.

by clashfan on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny but true -- the best-pitched game I've ever seen in person,

and that includes Greinke’s Cy Young* season, was Hochevar’s 80-pitch complete game.

*ok, top 5. But still. I’ve never seen a game like it and I likely never will again. Hoch won’t likely ever be that guy again, but I’ll never forget that game because it’s as close to ideal as I can imagine. (27 first-pitch induced grounders).

by Justin Bopp on Feb 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

If what been written is true, the Royals probably couldn't convince Oswalt to come to come to Kansas City.

Unless they were going to drastically overpay. I’m not convinced that the Roy Oswalt of 2012 will be the quite as good (or healthy) as he of 2010 or earlier. A team like Boston or Texas could take the gamble and, at worst, eat ten mil. Not sure if KC’s budget has a lot of room for gambling.

by jrjanowi on Feb 15, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Do the Royals have the offense to compete?

I’m not sold on Alex Gordon being a 6 win player on an annual basis. Hosmer and Butler are good, but Moustakas hasn’t lived up to the billing yet. I like Lorenzo Cain but he’s also not a sure thing. Escobar can’t hit and the rest of their roster is blah. The bullpen looks to be good again. But even if the Royals added an Edwin Jackson or Roy Oswalt, I wouldn’t call it a good rotation.

by Pflood83 on Feb 15, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

A New Hope

The 2 cent editor that wrote this blog is about as funny as this guy.

by Keith-Allen on Feb 15, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

I see what you did there...

Decided to take a pot shot at Prince’s weight by comparing him to a giant slug…you know, because he’s only excelled playing with his body type ever since he was a kid, has been incredibly durable, and is surprisingly nimble for a heavier player.

Clever…very clever.

As for the Royals, one need only look at the Orioles (Matusz, Tillman, Britton, Arrieta) to see that minor league talent guarantees nothing. Asking for an entire 5-man rotation to rise from prospect status to major league ready in one or two seasons is frankly unrealistic, especially in the stacked AL. And no, a top trio of Hochevar/Chen/Sanchez in the interim do not a contender make.

by CoreyMichaelDC on Feb 15, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

laughably pathetic

So Neyer being open about cheering for one team is fine, but stooping to jr. high level name calling for players of the other teams in the division is embarassing.

also taking shots at Mike Illitch for being a billionaire and implying he’s going to die soon is pretty week. Aren’t most teams owned by billionaires these days? Just because the owner of his team is notoriously cheap and wants to pocket revenue sharing money doesn’t make other billionaire owners bad. does he really think his old rich guy is more noble than other teams old rich guys because he chooses to profit off a team’s fanbase that really has had no shot of winning for the last 10 years? great argument.

by sparty316 on Feb 15, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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