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N.Y. Times: The Tigers' Infield Defense Could Be Brutal

There were any number of reasons why nobody thought the Detroit Tigers were going to sign Prince Fielder, but chief among them was the simple fact that the Detroit Tigers already had a pretty good first baseman: Miguel Cabrera.

So when the Detroit Tigers did sign Prince Fielder -- or announce their agreement to sign him, anyway -- we immediately began to wonder what the Tigers would do with two first basemen. And we were somewhat nonplussed upon the news that management was/is seriously considering playing Cabrera at third base, where he's not played for even a moment since 2008. For good reason.

As the New York Times' Benjamin Hoffman notes, the Tigers' infield defense could be brutal:

The Tigers will now feature a first baseman whose listed weight is 275 pounds and a third baseman listed as 240 pounds. Fielder, who is 5 feet 11 inches, may be telling the truth, but the 6-4 Cabrera certainly appears heavier than that.

On defense, Fielder has always been a very good hitter. Using the advanced fielding metric of Ultimate Zone Rating, he has been below average as a first baseman in all but one of his full seasons.

The true butcher of the pair, however, is Cabrera. Already ill suited to the defensive rigors of first base, Cabrera will be returning to the position he manned, poorly, during his time with the Marlins.

Honestly, I still can't figure out what in hell the Tigers are doing. It would be one thing if Víctor Martínez were going to be around this season. But he's not, and the Tigers don't have a ready-made DH to fill Martinez's slot. So why not simply give that job to Cabrera or Fielder?

Well, I'm fairly sure the Tigers have promised Fielder plenty of work at first base. And they probably are leery of turning Cabrera into a full-time DH so early in his career (he's 28, just a year older than Fielder).

So why not let both of them play first base? While sharing the DH duties, too? This would serve the dual purpose of a) alleviating some of the strain from those BIG bodies, and b) keeping Cabrera the hell away from third base.

Granted, there is one other issue; if Cabrera doesn't play third base this year, it's even more difficult to send him to third base in 2013, when Martinez presumably returns to the lineup, along with his $13 million salary.

My guess? The Tigers wind up trading Martinez, and eating a big chunk of his contract. Which we'll simply add to the many millions by which the franchise is over-paying to feature Prince Fielder for nine years.

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Rob, would your opinion change if you found out that Cabrera was reporting to Lakeland next month in the best shape of his life, or changed his off-season regime? What about if he was working on a new pitch?

by bdjeff42 on Jan 26, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

When V-Mart comes back...

They could choose to trade Cabrera, without eating salary, for a farm restocking bounty in return. Then, they could throw $200 million at David Wright, and just go crazy.

by Bobby A on Jan 26, 2012 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

They were already

going to win the central.And if they make the WS, Cabrerra would have to play 3rd anyway. So they will live with re learning the position..And why do analysts just think that Cabrerra will not get into shape?

by tommyz on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, I'm still doubled over with laughter

from reading the phrase “advanced fielding metric” to describe a current defensive stat (and I respect UZR more than most of the attempts, that web site at least has the humility to admit that it becomes a meaningful statistic with about a three year sample size)

by Bob DeGrande on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Few things to think about

1. Cabrera’s defense has improved. Last year was actually passable, but UZR hurts him because he ranges out too far on a lot of things to try to compensate for a weak 2B and sometimes doesn’t make the play. And to use exaggerations like “he’s a butcher” is being dramatic. I myself would be a butcher in the field… A NYT columnist would be a butcher in the field. Cabrera is a pro ball player, and using drama only gives people the impression that he doesn’t know how to catch a ball, but I guess most media is drama anyway.

2. Have you seen the twitpic of him and Hanley? Dude trimmed all the fat, is mad ripped, and looks ready to go. He’s been anticipating playing third for a little while now. His gut looks gone, and I’m sure he can handle third at least enough to get by. I’ll bet my house on him being better than Mark Reynolds, at least. (Burrrnnn!) He’s serious now…. his drinking is behind him, and he’s ready to be MVP,

3. Leyland won a WS with Bobby Freaking Bonilla at third base in Florida, so who cares if Cabrera is below average?

by Oberon on Jan 26, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, point #2 is like bdjeff’s post above, except it looks like you’re actually being serious.

In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.

by jsimon66 on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Ripped.

http://twitter.com/#!/HanleyRamirez/status/144089434118307841/photo/1

by Oberon on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Also...

Is it me, or does it seem like more pundits get upset by Detroit overpaying for someone than if any other team got him?

Would people be this annoyed off if Miami or Washington gave him the same contract? Honest question! I’ve always detected an anti-Detroit bias across all sports with the MSM.

by Oberon on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

I'ts just you

Seriously – it’s just you.

by noxad on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just you

Seriously – it’s just you.

by noxad on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

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