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The Miami Marlins Are The Worst Thing Ever

By Al Yellon - Editor

Exterior view of the new Miami Marlins Ballpark in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

Oh, sure, their shiny new stadium looks nice from the outside. But beginning this April, it will host the most reprehensible franchise in baseball.

Jan 21, 2012 - The Miami Marlins aren't a baseball team, they're a lounge act.

And they're not one of the nightclub acts you line up to see. No, they're a faded 1970s lounge act, long after the genre lost its popularity, with a singer wearing an orange sequined jacket, singing Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby songs off-key while the lone waitress, whose hair long ago ceased to be blonde but has been frosted that way anyway, serves drinks to fifty-something men who are trying to pretend they don't have combovers.

This is all to preface this post, which I freely admit is going to be full of unreasonable dislike of the team from Miami. I can't stand the Marlins or anything they represent.

There, I said it. (And yes, I admit that a certain series in 2003 has a lot to do with this irrational hatred, but there's more. So much more.)

This all came rushing back to me when I saw this video of LeBron James of the Miami Heat crashing into Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria on Thursday:

And the first thing I thought was, "Good! He deserves that!" And I can't stand LeBron, either, but good for you, LeBron.

Am I being too harsh toward Jeffrey Loria? Read what he did to destroy major league baseball in Montreal and see if you don't agree with me:

Jeffrey Loria’s reign of terror in Montreal began early in his stewardship with the Expos. Loria ended the Expos broadcast agreements alienating the local business community. His next move that caused concern for Expos fans was that he instilled his stepson David Samson, as Expos president. Samson in Montreal was like oil and water, the two never worked together. Samson’s inability to speak French, in a city where 80 percent of the population speaks French, upset the Francophone community.

Loria gutted the Expos roster of any major league talent, cutting the team's payroll, making the team nothing more then a glorified Triple-A baseball franchise playing Major League Baseball.

Then there's this affront to baseball logos:

And this affront to humanity:

Seriously, what are these people thinking? That's right: "tired lounge act." As if that's not enough, the team's marketing department regularly taunts the Chicago Cubs whenever they come to town; this one's from a 2009 series:

Cubs manager Lou Piniella was not amused when the Marlins on Friday night paraded a goat onto the field in front of the Cubs’ dugout between the second and third innings.

"Tasteless," Piniella said. "When we come here they always have some gimmick that basically doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know who dreams up these things. When they come to our place in Chicago, we don’t have fried marlin."

That wasn't the first time they'd done that, either; I can understand fans taunting or trash-talking, but the team's marketing department doing this? They've also insulted the Cubs (and other teams) with boorish scoreboard graphics; one can only hope they left these juvenile jokes at the football stadium they used to call home. (And never mind that when the Cubs were in town, Marlins home attendance at the football stadium would typically double. Some thanks.)

And as if that's not enough, the Marlins hired noted loudmouth Ozzie Guillen as manager; perhaps this year he can get himself in trouble with tweets in two languages. Then they traded for noted hothead Carlos Zambrano; what's the over/under on the date for Big Z's next meltdown?

Yes, the Marlins have added quite a bit of on-field talent this offseason -- Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle and Heath Bell being the most notable acquisitions -- and have a chance to contend in the NL East, if Ozzie can keep all that talent under control.

Perhaps the Marlins can best be summed up by this quote from Loria's stepson Marlins team president David Samson, recently quoted on the subject of the team possibly signing Cuban star Yoenis Cespedes:

"Aggressive right to the point of stupidity, but not quite there," said Samson, characterizing the club’s planned pursuit. "We think he’s a perfect fit for us, but it has to be sane."

"Aggressive right to the point of stupidity."

Now there's a perfect slogan for this hokey lounge act masquerading as a baseball team.

Read More: Heath Bell (P - FLA), Carlos Zambrano (P - FLA), Mark Buehrle (P - FLA), Jose Reyes (SS - FLA), LeBron James (F - MIA), Miami Marlins

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Hey

If bitching about a decade old Spring Training stadium and trying to hold a city hostage over it is wrong, then the Cubs don’t wanna be right!

Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3

by Clefo on Jan 21, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Didn't they really hold up the whole state

with the Cubs tax?

My favorite part was that those in favor of it claimed that the other teams should be so honored that the Cubs play in Arizona that they should be willing to subsidize their stadium.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 21, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t they really hold up the whole state with the Cubs tax?

No. Because that proposal was rejected.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 21, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

But you tried, Right?

You bash someone for not understanding French, Yet you can’t read English. Wow, I just defended Justin.

crashtestnipplechip citymoron

by Excalib8 on Jan 22, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

IIRC

There was also the implication from some people that without the Cubs in Spring Training, the whole state of Arizona would become a barren, lawless wasteland that makes the setting of “The Road Warrior” look like a gated community. (Which, to be fair, is true, but the Cubs have nothing to do with it.)

Founder of the 'Foundation for the Advancement of Clefoing' a 501C3

by Clefo on Jan 21, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think most people could get he's complaining about a franchise that does not act very professional

Fans can say whatever they want. If it makes you feel better to wish a longer championship drought on the Cubs, go right ahead. It says a lot about you.

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If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.

by Ace Venom on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It says I already hated the Cubs long before this article was written

that’s what it says.

Scott Tenorman Cubs fans need to keep crying for my pleasure.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 21, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Regarding "it says a lot about you" comment...

Actually, it says no more than this article says. Yellon just says he hates the Marlins. Despite the fact he says it’s more than just 2003 that bothers him, he brings up very little that shows the Marlins are an afront to baseball. I expected a long argument on the mismanagement of the Marlins, exhibiting ways in which the owner has alienated the fans. There’s not much here. Which is a disappointment, since there are probably a ton of FACTS out there that prove the Marlins management is reprehensible.

by Real Tom on Jan 21, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but that requires real research.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 21, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Probably

I try to block 2003 out of my mind. Certainly the Marlins organizaiton should not be surprised by attendance issues when they won two World Series, but made no effort to actually maintain a dynasty after each win. Most fans would love to experience one World Series win in a lifetime, but this organization certainly gave the middle finger to the fans while complaining about small market woes.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.

by Ace Venom on Jan 21, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Two WS wins in a decade is a middle finger to the fans?

The fans never came out, ever, despite the titles. Part of that was on the ownership for gutting the teams afterward, but only a small part. The Marlins complain about small market woes because they have serious small market woes.

The stadium/taxes issue is an entirely separate issue, one on which all teams give middle fingers to the fans. And the Marlins ownership in recent years has been incredibly difficult to defend. But the arguments above are the exact wrong ones.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Small market woes? Are you serious? Milwaukee is a small market. Pittsburgh is a small market. Miami?

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Milwaukee is bigger than Miami.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 22, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And I of course used population instead of media market.

Miami is middle of the pack in media market.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 22, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

From wikipedia:

The South Florida metropolitan area, also known as the Miami metropolitan area, and designated the Miami–Fort Lauderdale–Pompano Beach, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget, is the most populous metropolis in the Southeastern United States and the eighth-most populous metropolitan area in the United States…

Yeah, you’re right. What was I thinking. Absolutely tiny.

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.sportstvjobs.com/resources/local-tv-market-sizes-dma.html

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 22, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

“Media market size” is not a good approximator of “market size.” There are a lof of people in the Miami metropolitan area who are not included in the “media market,” for one reason or another.

I say again, it’s the 8th largest MSA in the country. How is that a small market?

by Phrozen on Jan 23, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Twice

The Marlins have competed two years and been disasters every other one

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!

by astromets on Jan 22, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You're wrong.

They competed in 2006, and had winning teams in 2004, 2005, 2008 and 2009. They’ve only had one 100 loss season in their entire history. Considering the track record for other expansion franchises, it’s not a bad 20-year start.

by Jigokusabre on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

hmm i wonder who will have a better record next year?

made some bad decisions? yes. but you dont call out an entire franchise like that just because youre sad that your team sucks. get a life.

by rideallnide on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Having a better record

… has nothing to do with the way you act.

Maybe they will. In the long run, I believe the Cubs, with their new management, will be more successful.

I’m tired of the “Cubs suck, so if you’re a Cubs fan you can’t criticize anyone else” meme. Get some new material.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It truly is a pity those two Marlins championships and perhaps a third in the making...

…have to be wasted on an indifferent fan base, at a location completely removed from the heart of MLB. In terms of World Series worthiness we might think of Miami as Oakland East.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

wasted? please... just because the cubs have history doesnt mean they deserve a championship.

the baseball gods know what they are doing. maybe there’s a reason the cubs aren’t winning. Obviously the marlins were on their good side in 2003.

by rideallnide on Jan 23, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You're absolutely right...

Cubs players and fans have been done-in at crucial moments by their confounded sense of entitlement, which of course is an unfortunate by-product of team mismanagement that began around 1920, when the Wrigley family assumed full control of the franchise.

And sure, my observations on Miami and the Marlins are at least in part driven by the sneering envy and resentment I experience whenever I think of the ’03 playoffs, so dripping with irony and low comedy in their Bartmanesque conclusion.

However, the fact remains that MLB overexpanded for a fast buck in the 1990’s, and that today’s game would be better without either Florida franchise. Nothing personal, but looking back at those bought-and-paid-for Marlins championships are a little like seeing somebody win the lottery with a ticket found on the sidewalk.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

haha you think the marlins bought either of their championships?

extremely short sighted of you. sure, in ’97 they did bring in some extra guys to put them over the top, but they had most of the team in place from previous years.

and I dare you to come up with anything that makes the ’’03 season a bought championship. the core of that team, Beckett, Lowell, Cabrera, Willis, Lee, Gonzalez, Castillo.all home-grown or came to the team years before.

sorry. try again.

GO:Gators, Dolphins, Heat, and Marlins
he who fears losing, has already lost
FLORIDA Marlins Forever!

by Gatorfan4life on Jan 23, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can't argue with you about '03, although D. Lee did come to the Marlins...

…in Garbage King Wayne Huizenga’s salary dump of Kevin Brown, who certainly was key to the store-bought champs of ‘97. I’ve got to hand it to Dave Dombrowski, who has assembled winning clubs in Montreal and Detroit in addition to those ‘97 Marlins. Dave never seems to get the credit he deserves from national media as one of the game’s best GM’s.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 23, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I can assure you...

that Marlins D-Lee wasn’t the same as Cubs D-Lee.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Here or there, he's no Hee Seop Choi.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 24, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

But is it honestly any different then what most teams do today?

when you have a team that you think is actually pretty good, but hasnt been performing, or just isnt really there yet, what do you do? You go out and get some good players to solidify your team! every team does that!

They did it in ’97, and they did it in ’03 with the Juan Pierre deal and Pudge. but the idea that we “bought” the championship is ridiculous. I think baseball fans just hear that all the time and accept it as gospel. They think, if the lowly marlins can rise up and win the World series, they must have either cheated in some way, or just bought it. As there is no way a perennial bottom feeder like the marlins could ever do it legitimately when there are other, older, more deserving teams.

and that type of attitude kills me. Im not saying thats what happened with you, but there are alot of baseball fans who will think like that.

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he who fears losing, has already lost
FLORIDA Marlins Forever!

by Gatorfan4life on Jan 24, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No, the Marlins didn't cheat in '97. Business genius that he is,

Huizenga played the system to his best advantage. He apparently didn’t intend to remain in MLB for the long term, and likely planned to dump his high-priced talent as soon as he had used the Marlins for what may have been a variety of purposes that go beyond simply winning baseball games.

Yet, to your advantage as a Marlins fan, he obviously considered winning to be important to reaching his short-term goals. And sure, after following the Cubs for decades, I would have no objection to seeing Huizenga-style management buy a championship for the Cubs. (Of course, Zell and Hendry almost did that for Chicago in 2008.)

My complaint is that baseball began to grossly exceed its optimum performance levels with over-expansion that began in ‘77 when it added the Blue Jays and Marlins. The 1976 model of four divisions of six teams each was baseball’s high point, with only division winners eligible for the World Series.

In addition to over-expansion, the twin abominations of wild cards and interleague play have cheapened the results of the 162-game regular season beyond all repair. So, once again, my original comment is nothing personal regarding the Marlins and their two wild card championships. I just don’t like the way today’s leagues, schedules, and playoffs are structured.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 24, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I do understand that opinion.

I dont like certain things in baseball either. For example, I loathe the DH rule. I believe every person should have to play 100% of the game.

Although I think the wild card is necessary in order to better protect teams that just get bad draws in their division. Teams in the AL East, though often some of the best in baseball, would only be able to send one team, even though the 2nd place team is likely one of better ones in the league.

I agree about inter-league play, but if the DH rule was demolished, I would end up feeling much better about it.

as far as baseball over-expanding, I dont really feel qualified to offer an opinion.

GO:Gators, Dolphins, Heat, and Marlins
he who fears losing, has already lost
FLORIDA Marlins Forever!

by Gatorfan4life on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wayne was pissed with the 1994 MLB agreement

And at that time wanted to win and and get out, so he did what he could and went for it in 1997 and then dumped his baseball team on John Henry, one of the greatest liars of all time.

by miamiwestchester on Jan 26, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is not baseball.

It’s a three ring circus. Happy to see that I am not alone in my disgust for them.

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by katie casey on Jan 21, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

"Seels"?

Did you mean “seems”?

Guilty as charged.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And dare I say...

Proud of it?

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As opposed to the MSM (Yahoo, ESPN, Fox Sports, etc).....

Who are more or less cheerleaders/propagandists for the Yankees? At least Al here admits his hatred for the Marlins while the other organizations that I named claim with a straight face to be “objective”

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by BlueChill on Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The expectation should be that anything on Baseball Nation is at least nominally objective

There’s a blog for each team on the SBN platform. This post would’ve been perfectly appropriate on the Cubs’ blog. But on the front page of SBN’s baseball coverage, IMO it comes off as immature and cheap. I do think Al is normally much better than this.

by ken on Jan 22, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I admitted

… right in the body of the article, that a lot of this irrational dislike comes from me being a Cubs fan. Admittely, that makes me biased.

However, there’s a lot more to dislike about the Marlins than just coming from a Cubs point of view.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The memory of that jerk dancing around the infield at Wrigley after Game 7...

…is almost more than I can bear.

"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62

"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64

by ernaga on Jan 21, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Guess what?

The Marlins are up for next season’s Showtime “The Franchise” series. So now you can get up close and personal with the object of your affliction.

by Josh Timmers on Jan 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

They just like Ozzie.

They keep following him around.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Al's aritcles demonstrate that he is a man who won't let the facts get in the way of a really good argument!

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 21, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

man

Somehow I had managed to repress the memory of the year that baseball’s promotions were entirely based around Brian Wilson’s stupid beard. Thanks for reminding me.

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by WHYG Zane Smith on Jan 21, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So?

It’ll go to the Marlins. They have characters like Hanley, Morrison, Ozzie, Nunez(or whatever his name is now), and now Zambrano. I see their season playing out just like the Giants last year, just with less pitching and more offense. Good for them?

by Undocorkscrew on Jan 21, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs >>> Marlins

/cardinals fan

The Marlins will be on “The Franchise” because the Cardinals wisely said “no, thanks.” I’d love to see a docu show follow the team…but who needs that circus? If you are one already I guess it doesn’t matter.

I like Ozzie and LoMo and good luck to Buehrle down there, but otherwise geez.

by PeterStork670 on Jan 21, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don't think the Giants were hurt by the cameras

So I don’t think the Cardinals would have been hurt by the Showtime people.

Having said that, the Marlins have a lot more “characters” on them than the Cardinals do. Might be for the best. The Cardinals will probably be a little dull next season—although probably in a good way.

by Josh Timmers on Jan 21, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS SHOULD BE GREEN

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 21, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

bashing Loria is entirely reasonable at a fan level.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 22, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

i agree.

but the marlins fans hate loria too. just fyi.

by rideallnide on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

this.

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FLORIDA Marlins Forever!

by Gatorfan4life on Jan 23, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao... someone's mad

SOMEONE’S butthurt still that they lost in 2003 on there only CHANCE at winning the world series… ya mad bra? too bad your team is still going to continue to suck for the next 100 years… and the marlins will go all the way so keep up the QQ… it’ll get your team real far :)

by Spottymill on Jan 21, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

i bet

i’m 28 but ok buddy boy… work on your insults before ya try it next time… also too hard to stay on topic i see

by Spottymill on Jan 21, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s the internet… you’ll see a lot more of that pretty much everywhere ya go. enjoy!

by Spottymill on Jan 21, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And the world weeps because of it.

And while idiotic writing is accepted on certain parts of the internet, it’s not popular at SB Nation. Write like an adult.

by ahoque24 on Jan 21, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

shaking my head...

remind me to explain the concept of junk journalism to you nutshell…. but it seems you are well-versed in it already.

AAAAND you’re the FREAKING EDITOR!?!?

by PBCPhinfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea they said that about Boston last season too and look what happened

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by BlueChill on Jan 22, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

*godlord

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 21, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya know

I don’t really see anything irrational in this article. Just this one part makes me want to hate them for eternity

That inspires nothing but hatred for that abomination and the team that thought it was a good idea

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

I like the logo...

…screams 80’s Atari, but the colors and everything else are an abomination.

by Dale Sams on Jan 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Is 80's

Atari what a team should go for in a 2012 logo?

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

This site is dedicated to the hipsters in Miami

http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

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by BlueChill on Jan 22, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they are called

“homeless people” in Miami

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by Fukudometer on Jan 22, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you think its all old Jewish people ?

People that think that are living in the 1980’s. The Jews left 20 years ago and now the Miami metro area is about 80% hispanic. Its people full of foreigners who know nothing of the Marlins and only root for the Yankees because they only heard about the Yankees growing up.

by miamiwestchester on Jan 26, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you.

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jan 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's January 21, 2012

where were YOU when the post of the year was made?

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I remember where I was

I was on this page, laughing my ass off while a bunch of Cubs fans whined and cried about 2003 all over again.

by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Jan 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You're talking about game 4...

I was at game 5 where Josh Beckett shut the Cubs out and made the series 3-2 still in Cubs favor. Lots of fights between our fans and their fans in the stands, that’s typical even in a regular season game. What I remember the most from that day was afterwards, us running and jumping down the spiral walkway @ the stadium, and a Cubs fan,complete stranger, grabs my brother by the shirt and tells him, “celebrate now, Prior and Wood are coming up @ Wrigley, you will be watching the WS from your couch”. My brother laughed and said “The Cubs will never make it to the world series, enjoy your loss.”

and the rest as they say, is history.

Being a Marlins fan since skipping school to watch the inaugural game in 1993, I have dealt with a lot of the opposing team’s fans, not surprising seeing the lack of support here for our own team, and all the transplants who live here from NY, PHI, Chicago etc. I will tell you this, of all of them, the absolute worst are the Cubs fans. I feel bad for the good ones, and I’ve spoken to a couple of them who have apologized to me on their behalf. Watch Catching Hell, for more info.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 21, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at game 5 as well

sitting on the upper deck with my father and a shit load of people. i can still remember how loud the place got after we won.

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by Gatorfan4life on Jan 23, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re all here!

by Phrozen on Jan 21, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funnier than the Marlins’ new jokes, at least.

by Phrozen on Jan 21, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If by funny, you mean lazy.

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by U-God on Jan 21, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, yes, it is lazy. But only because it’s true.

by Phrozen on Jan 21, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright man...

keep booing Santa Claus and vomiting on little girls, getting tazed, etc.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 23, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot throwing batteries and kicking the shit out of Rangers’ (the NHL variety) fans.

by Phrozen on Jan 23, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

see!

We all have our skeletons in the closet!

by PaulXL7 on Jan 24, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

The Logo, the Logo . . .

Weren’t those Colonel Kurtz’s last words in Apocalypse Now?

by G H Wolf on Jan 21, 2012 6:12 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Mannnnnnnn...

I can’t believe the beating Yellon is taking for this. I’m as guilty as the next guy when it comes to taking shots at the Cubs and their fans just for sport but I thought this was a solid piece.

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by TheThinGwynn on Jan 21, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Jeez, Al, you really struck a nerve here.

Personally, I loved it. I don’t hate the Marlins, the same way I don’t hate the flu or bad Chinese food or idiot drivers; but I do dislike them.

It stems, I think, from the 1997 World Series. I remember listening to the postgame show on the radio. Someone (Costas?) was interviewing a fan, and, while she was understandably psyched, she commented that, “it’s been such a long wait for this team, and it’s like God heard our prayers and gave us what we deserved…” Something to that effect. Definitely on the “God” part and the “deserved” part.

And about five minutes later, they shipped their players to Bolivia for a used donkey. At every turn, they’ve gone out of their way to piss people off, treat the sport as a joke; and this rebranding is bringing more of the same crap. I’m honestly surprised that, instead of makig Reyes lop his dreads, they didn’t require all their players to wear them. The logo, the colors, the homerun thing, they’re marginally funny at first; but then you realize they were designed by Ghaddafi and you ask, “what the hell.”

So, no, Al, they’re not the “worst thing ever.” But they are one of the worst things to happen to baseball since the DH.

by Phrozen on Jan 21, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

"At every turn, they’ve gone out of their way to piss people off"

Mostly their fans, which is/was a big reason why they don’t show.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 22, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Not just their fans. Watching another team, even a divisional rival, gut itself again and again, and now watching this mockery of the game they’re unfolding pisses me off to no end.

Loria and the Marlins are as bad as Chuck Finley, if not worse.

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"Worst thing ever"?

Maybe not. A bit of hyperbole, perhaps. It’s also a play on the titles of several other features written about the Marlins on this site since last fall.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Who are the Marlins?

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on Jan 21, 2012 8:37 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Exactly.

I just know the Marlins as the goofy team from South Florida that’s allergic to sustained success. I had no idea that anyone thought enough about them to have any pent-up animosity toward them.

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by Zavada's Moustache on Jan 21, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Mets fan...

I’d prefer to WS championship teams over the last 20 years over the garbage we’ve gotten…

So I can’t call the Miami Marlins the worst thing ever.

by aronofsky40 on Jan 22, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I for one, welcome our polychromatic overlords.....

Not every team has to be red, blue, and white.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 21, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They do if you are a racist.

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by Yossarian22 on Jan 21, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

No. I don’t miss them at all. In fact, I think that it’s great that (most) teams moved on into the 21st century.

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Al Yellon Is The Worst Writer On This Site. Ever.

Seriously, the sad attempts to be a Bill Simmons-esque, rah-rah-rah-for-the-home-team everyman are misguided and rarely funny. Baseball Nation is better than this. (And better than Al.)

Okay, everyone, the emergency is over. Please return to reading Neyer and Brisbee.

by hooperxx on Jan 22, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions   4 recs

Neyer sucks too.

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on Jan 22, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn

this article would have been gold if Brisbee wrote it

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by the king of CERA on Jan 22, 2012 1:47 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Hmm.

What’s the difference? Educate me, please.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Brisbee's funny

You’re not. At all.

by ams78 on Jan 22, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So if Grant had written this exact feature

… it would have been funny?

Do tell.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Exact feature? Like word for word?

Of course not. But nobody’s saying that, are they? The point is, if Brisbee has decided to write an article about how the Marlins are “the worst thing ever,” he’d have found a way to make it entertaining and hilarious and not whiny, obnoxious and unnecessary.

And I can’t believe I had to explain that. You’re not really that stupid, are you? You have to be just pretending at this point.

by ams78 on Jan 22, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This was pretty funny, though.

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, ’cause Jamie Moyer just signed with the Cubs; Marty Springstead was a Cub, not an umpire; and all 66 remaining free agents will sign with the Cubs instead of Boston.

Seriously. You don’t like the article, don’t read it. Like you said. Some people did like it, and not just Cubs’ fans.

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 3:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I said almost exclusively. You can't deny that Al writes considerably more about his own team than any other nation writer.

And he does it unapologetically. Grant will say “now I know I may be biased because I follow the Giants,” Jeff always says “I know the Mariners best” etc, whenever they even show a hint of particular focus. I clearly agree with you that if you don’t like the article, don’t read it, but enough people seem to feel strongly enough about not liking most of Al’s work (I’ve never seen another writer get boo’d on here; Al has many times) that it detracts from the collective reputation of Baseball Nation. Maybe people should just ‘meh’ away and let a chorus of silence be the most appropriate response to an article ill-received. I never rag on writers or speak up like this, they do something I could and would never do, but I would rather have a nerdier writer do some deep digging into the annals than Al’s rather particular focus. His journalism is great, like those articles of his you cited, but his historicism and sensationalism isn’t up to par. These are what I come to SBnation for, a fun take on the infinite realm of sports past and present.

TL;DR: Al, please do more journalism, I really like your work on it. Please don’t try to make pop media, I don’t think it works. ALL IN MY OPINION. That’s why there’s comments at all, right?

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by tsunamijesus on Jan 22, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe it's a Cubs thing.

There seems to be, for lack of a better term, some irrational hatred for the Cubs and Cubs fans.

So if I write about something from a Cubs fan’s viewpoint, that automatically seems to put it in the “I hate it” category, regardless of what the rest of the topic is.

I’m glad you like some of my work. I’ll work harder to get you to like the rest.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have an "irrational hatred" for the Cubs.

I have a very rational hatred for the Cubs, because most years they’re keeping my team out of fifth place.

Except 2011, when the Cubs managed to be even worse than a team that completely collapsed in August and September. And with, what, triple the payroll?

Heh-heh-heh.

by bucdaddy on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I find it hilarious...

…that the schmuck who wrote this joke of an article has the nerve to whine about “irrational hatred” for his precious little band of losers.

by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Jan 23, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You can’t deny that Al writes considerably more about his own team than any other nation writer.

Sure he does, and I don’t fault him for it. But he doesn’t “only [going to] write about the Cubs,” as you said in the title of your previuos post, nor does he do it “almost exclusively.” It’s maybe 50-50.

by Phrozen on Jan 22, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This made me think of a different series in 2003 involving the Marlins

That made me angry, which made me agree completely with this article.

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by El Person on Jan 22, 2012 3:32 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously though

those 2003 Marlins beat the Yankees in the World Series.

Meaning 90ish percent of baseball fans were content with the conclusion of that baseball season.

No one cares if they pissed off whiny Cubs fans en route to a greater good.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 22, 2012 3:51 AM EST reply actions   4 recs

Thank you for reminding me of that

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by kcgard2 on Jan 22, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Sigh….I’m in the 10%

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by Brandon C. on Jan 22, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Better than what I usually hear

“Yankees fans: The %$$()(#$($#)(*$#)”

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by Brandon C. on Jan 22, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking that the 10% doesn't have the same ring to it as the 1%.

But the "The %$$()(#$($#)(*$#)" might just be the battle cry the Occupy Yankee Stadium movement is looking for.

by ahoque24 on Jan 22, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by Brandon C. on Jan 22, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay.

When Reyes signed with the Marlins, the first thing I thought of was “why them?” I still don’t believe that the Florida/Miami Marlins fan base deserves him. But there is nothing I can do about it. So I ask of Marlins fans everywhere (I know they exist after reading this comment section) to prove me wrong. Please prove to me and Mets fans everywhere that you can support him. I certainly believe you can with the added benefit of a shiny new stadium. I don’t support the Marlins at all, and I won’t be supporting Jose Reyes anymore, but what I will support is the Marlins fan base.

I think it's fine.

by NetsMets4Life on Jan 22, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

As a fellow Mets fan

I can only home the Marlins can supply Jose with more help than the Mets have been able to. And judging by this offseason at least, it looks like they intend to.

The Mets have been a joke since 2009 now. : (

by aronofsky40 on Jan 22, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Screw that

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by Terry_is_God on Jan 22, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

the 6th "Marlins R worst ever" article this offseason is a little much

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 AM EST via Android app reply actions   3 recs

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by Lum on Jan 22, 2012 10:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's a house of cards

You have

1. The powder keg of egos between players and management, just because you have talent doesn’t mean that they will get along or work together
2. The SEC investigation
3. Loria’s slimy history with the Expos

If you want to bash Al, fine but as I said earlier he openly admits his hatred for Miami unlike ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Fox Sports, among others and their zombie like readers who claim to be “objective” and represent true sports “journalism”

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by BlueChill on Jan 22, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree....

…with the ESPN, Yahoo, etc part. Jeff Passan on Yahoo writes an anti-Marlins article at least once a month.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 22, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

That's true.

And unless the Marlins do something in the future that’s bash-able (and given their track record, they might), I’m done bashing them.

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by Al Yellon on Jan 22, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Loria

is a douche-nozzle of the first order, but let’s also remember that his fucking over of Montreal – and Expos fans everywhere – was done with the complete approval of his crony “Bud,” the King of the Nozzles.

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by cocktailsfor2 on Jan 22, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I don't know whats worse

that someone who works for sbnation wrote this, or the fact that the comments section is as bad as ESPN, Yahoo or Foxsports. I hate the Marlins as much as anyone, but this should never have been published by an official writer

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by astromets on Jan 22, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Anyway

Yankees fans are the worst thing ever…

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by astromets on Jan 22, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think the third guy to the left is Bartolo Colon

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by Brandon C. on Jan 22, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Are you sure...

that’s not Freddy Garcia? I think the guy behind him looks more like Colon… and look to the right… It’s Derek Jeter!!!

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by jameslcrockett on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t he have been playing!

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by Brandon C. on Jan 26, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

There are people in the world who don't loathe the Marlins?

What the hell?

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by Thomas Wachtel on Jan 23, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

I'm rather impressed

this is more comments here than on any Marlins game thread this entire year. Actually might be more than they get in a couple weeks.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 23, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Seeing as how the season hasn’t started yet, what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your comment did you ever come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who has looked at this article is now dumber for having read your comment. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

dear mentally retarded person

change “this year” to “this past year”. Happy? Sorry, I still sign some dates //11

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 23, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So your complaints are:

1. Loria is a creep
2. The Marlins have ugly jerseys
3. You feelings got hurt because source #6,846,355,453,258 has pointed out that the Cubs routinely stink.

The thing is that most owners are creeps, and just because Loria has garish taste doesn’t make him especially villanous. If you want to talk about the “worst thing ever” take a look at Pittsburgh, and all that storied history being dragged through the muck for two decades.

by Jigokusabre on Jan 23, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I would call an owner bad

1. Who guts a team both of players and payroll and leaves them for dead aka the Montreal Expos

2. Who hardly spends money to improve his franchise but then all of sudden does because he was able to bilk the tax payers to front him a new building

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by BlueChill on Jan 23, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Loria didn't bilk ANY taxpayers...

the stadium was paid by TOURIST TAX DOLLARS. So all those a-hole Cubs, Yankee, Mets and Phillies fans that flock to South Beach pay an extra 1¢ for every dollar they spend to pay for the Marlins stadium, and WE THANK YOU !

by miamiwestchester on Jan 26, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This article proves that the phrase “Cubs fan” and the word “moron” are interchangeable. In other words, “Al Yellon is a moron”.

by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mr. Madison Yellon, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by FishNFinz on Jan 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

that meme was run out here already

and was about as unfunny then as it was now.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jan 23, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for your input

i valued it as much as the authors

by FishNFinz on Jan 23, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so was....

..the Marlins have no fans “meme”.

by PaulXL7 on Jan 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'll take a hilarious quote from a classic movie...

…over a bunch of tired attendance comments anyday.

by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Jan 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This..

incoherent and irrational rant criticizing the Marlins is coming from a fan who:

1. Does not know the Marlins organization, yet feels entitled to articulate what it stands for.

&

2. Criticizes ownership and the organization as a whole, but is a fan of one which has failed to win anything for the last 103 years. (Yes, that is over 5 times the existence of the Marlins, yet 2 championships less.)

I am thankful that you, sir, are not a fan of this organization, because while up until now we had 700 fans at the stadium each night, I can be certain that each and every one of them was more knowledgable and respectable than yourself.

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by Zag on Jan 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hmmm
Does not know the Marlins organization, yet feels entitled to articulate what it stands for.

This pretty much describes the entire MSM in regards to every baseball team expect the Yankees

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by BlueChill on Jan 23, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm seriously surprised with the unprofessionalism of this article.

Somehow being a fan of a century old team gives you the right to determine what baseball teams deserve to exist and what does not?

seriously? borderline pathetic.

I understand hating Loria. we all do. dont be “Aggressive right to the point of stupidity” with your bias

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by Gatorfan4life on Jan 23, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

First the Miami Heat

and now the Miami Marlins.

Everyone loves a good trainwreck…

Is this the same Marlins Management that provided all selected financial figures, claimed it was broke to get help from the taxpayers?

by RIP Slim on Jan 24, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Taxpayers DIDN'T pay for this stadium, TOURISTS DID !

People just assume it was paid by our taxpayers….Not at all. In 2002 we the people of Miami-Dade County approved a 1¢ per dollar tax on all hotel rooms and bars in Miami Beach and other selected areas to pay for this.

by miamiwestchester on Jan 26, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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