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Which 2011 Postseason Teams Will Take A Fall In 2012?

Jan 21, 2012 - Nothing breeds optimism like success.

I grew up in Kansas City, and spent much of my childhood, my adolescence, and my adulthood deeply obsessed with the Kansas City Royals. In 1980, the Royals won 97 games and took the American League pennant. I thought for sure the Royals would win again in 1981.

Instead they went 50-53.

The blind optimism of a child dies hard, though. When the Royals actually won the World Series in 1985, I thought for sure they would win again in 1986.

Instead they went 76-86.

I think I did actually learn my lesson that time, but by then I was a college student and double-majoring in cynicism and knowing-it-all (fortunately, I didn't earn a degree in either subject).

All of which I bring up only to suggest that I can empathize with the fans of the eight teams that reached the postseason last season, all of whom are just 100-percent sure their teams will do it again.

When I started thinking about this, I wondered how many teams actually do repeat, from one season to the next. What do you think? My guess was roughly half.

From 2001 through 2010, 80 teams qualified for the championship tournament.

Half of them did it again the next season.

I mean, exactly half: 40.

Don't you love it when a plan comes together?

A few specifics ...

- There wasn't a league-season in which all four postseason teams were repeaters.

- There was just one league-season in which nobody repeated; in 2007, all four postseason teams in the National League were "new".

- As you might expect, there were more repeaters in the American League (23) than the National League (17) ... which can largely be attributed to the Yankees, who repeated nine times.

- Combining the league-seasons into MLB-seasons, the most common result is four repeaters, which happened five times. Then it's five repeaters twice, and one season each for six repeaters, three, and one.

The upshot of all this is that your playoff team has roughly a 50/50 shot of getting back to the playoffs this season.

Well, except for two caveats. History suggests that the 50/50 rule does not apply to the New York Yankees. And if Commissioner Bud is able to implement his favored postseason format in 2012 -- Selig is reportedly "very hopeful" -- then obviously the odds change, and significantly. Just not significantly to avoid disappointing a lot of optimistic fans of teams that won last year.

So if we're stuck on eight postseason teams, we're like to see three or four 2011 postseason teams not make it back this season. And I think even if we move to 10 postseason teams, three or four non-repeaters is still the most likely outcome, but with the scale shifting toward three.

With all that in mind, here are the eight teams trying to make it back this season:

Brewers
Cardinals
D'backs
Phillies
Rangers
Rays
Tigers
Yankees

What do you think? Who's not going to be there next October?

Let's run through them quickly, and at the end maybe there will be a poll or something.

Brewers - Problems, right? Prince Fielder is gone, and Ryan Braun is probably gone for 50 games while serving his suspension. The Brewers did sign Aramis Ramirez to play third base, and it looks like triple-A slugger Mat Gamel's going to get a shot at replacing Fielder at first base.

There are other reasons for pessimism. The Brewers won 96 games last season, but with the run differential of a 90-win team. As you know, run differentials predict future records better than past records predict future records. Also, the Cardinals reloaded this winter, while the Reds are clearly going all-out in 2012. The Cubs and Astros aren't going to compete for the division title, but they'll be better than they were a year ago, which will make a Wild Card berth tougher to come by for NL Central clubs.

Cardinals - They lost Albert Pujols, but gain Carlos Beltran and Adam Wainwright. Not to mention full (or fuller) seasons from Rafael Furcal and David Freese. It's far from clear what the losses of manager Tony La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan will mean.

Diamondbacks - The Plexiglass Principle, first noted by Bill James in the 1930s, suggests that teams that make a Great Leap Forward (GLF) in one season tend to fall back the next season.*

* Yes, this is just another term for regression to the mean, and it happens to almost everything and everybody.

In 2010, the Diamondbacks went 65-97. In 2011, the Diamondbacks went 94-68.

This is 1) amazing, 2) hard to maintain, and 3) an example of why it's so hard to repeat. There were any number of reasons why the World Series-winning 2010 Giants didn't even return to the playoffs in 2011, but one of them was that the Diamondbacks played so well.

Typically, we would expect Arizona to regress, and we probably will. But with the exception of catcher Miguel Montero, none of the Diamondbacks' every-day players had particularly out-of-character seasons. The rotation was probably over its head some, but Trevor Cahill's been added to the mix this winter. I do expect the bullpen to regress.

Phillies - They've reached the playoffs in five straight seasons, so perhaps we should just skip ahead to our next candidate ... Except there are some issues here. Left field is unsettled. Ryan Howard might miss half the season, or he might miss all of it. Roy Oswalt is gone, leaving the Phillies with three Cy Young candidates (which, granted, is still a lot of Cy Young candidates. And all those veteran infielders are yet another year older.

Rangers - It's hard to not love the Rangers, who lost C. J. Wilson but gained Yu Darvish. There's just about nothing wrong with this team, except they could use a better-hitting first baseman than the one they've got.

Rays - Everybody always says the Rays can't keep doing it, and they keep doing it. Carlos Pena's reclaimed his old spot at first base, and Matt Moore is the American League's top Rookie of the Year candidate. The Rays haven't lost any key players. You can't expect them to reach the playoffs, exactly. But they're in the mix.

Tigers - Just so you know, the Tigers were good candidates for regression before Victor Martinez went down with a serious knee injury. Yes, they went 95-67. But they outscored their opponents by only 76 runs. Those numbers won't show up together again this season. Also, I know Justin Verlander is really excellent but come on, he's not going to go 24-5 again. Having Doug Fister around for the whole season will help, but how much?

Of course, the Tigers do benefit from playing in the American League Central, which they won by 15 games last year. Who's going to challenge them this year? The second-place Indians were outscored by 56 runs, the third-place White Sox by 52. The Royals are still short a good starting pitcher, or maybe four. And the Twins? Hey, if Justin Morneau and Joe Mauer and seven other guys play a lot better than last year, they might become relevant once more. But even without Martinez, the Tigers are still the favorites entering the season.

Yankees - Yeah. Michael Pineda. Hiroki Kuroda. Whatever.

Here's my ranking, in order of greatest likelihood of not returning to the postseason next fall ...

1. Brewers
2. Phillies
3. Rays
4. D'backs
5. Rangers
6. Cardinals
7. Tigers
8. Yankees

What do you think? We have a poll, and a whole comments section. It's Saturday in January! What else are you going to do?

Poll
Which 2011 postseason is the least likely to return in 2012?
Brewers
601 votes
Cardinals
115 votes
Diamondbacks
254 votes
Phillies
27 votes
Rangers
24 votes
Rays
82 votes
Tigers
69 votes
Yankees
47 votes

1219 votes | Poll has closed

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I'd suggest Ryan Roberts had an out of character season

He’s 31, has been in the league off and on since 2006, and he nearly quadrupled his career WAR with a ~3.5 WAR season in over 125 starts.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 21, 2012 10:36 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Agree with Ryro

And I don’t expect Kennedy to pitch quite as well as last year, although I still think he will be very good. And Drew is a question mark after the hideous broken ankle last year.

But I disagree with Rob that the bullpen will regress after adding Saito and Breslow to go along with an already solid bullpen. In addition, the D-Backs have 5 solid starters (vs 3 at the start of 2011) with at least 2 young phenoms (Bauer and Skaggs) ready to come to the majors, so the load on the bullpen is likely to be significantly lighter than last year. Maybe Putz doesn’t have quite the year he had last year, but Hernandez is nearly as good.

A full year of Goldschmidt instead of Miranda/Branyan/Allen should help. Aaron Hill can hardly be worse than Kelly Johnson was for the first 4 months of last season, and hopefully will be better. And we re-signed Willie Bloomquist! For 2 years!

The Giants still can’t hit the ball, the Dodgers are in disarray, the Rockies have no pitching (or a lot of really mediocre pitching – take your pick), and the Padres are the Padres. So how good do the D-Backs really have to be to make the playoffs? I guess that’s why they play the games, eh?

by Craig from Az on Jan 21, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

We have Willie Bloomquist!

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Dodgers in disarray, and Padres are the Padres, and the Dbacks are the (2010) Dbacks.

I wouldn’t argue “well the west is so bad, it’s not so hard to beat them.” That’s the same argument that the Dodgers and Rockies and Giants use, because it’s true. I wouldn’t act as though the NL West is in any way predictable. Those same terrible Padres came within a game of winning the division a year ago. The Dodgers could play better than they did last year, and the Rockies are equally unpredictable. The Diamondbacks won on defense this year, and that can fluctuate (especially when you pay Kubel to take up Parra’s innings). Chris Young gets most of his value out of defense, so his 4 WAR seasons can look very similar to his .4WAR seasons. They DID have some breakout years and spikes in offense that Neyer doesn’t note (Parra’s breakout, Roberts), so I think this division is just as up for grabs as it was last year.

by Real Tom on Jan 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The Crew Is The Easy Pick

I think the AL Central goes upside down (or sideways, at least) this season. The Tigers still have an impressive core, but I think the Royals or the Indians, who could make a run if they stay healthier than last season AND have a great excuse to not start the Talented(?) Mr. Carmona, could make it interesting.

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by Kernel on Jan 21, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Meh, for all the talk of the Tigers regressing something fierce...

Porcello and Scherzer greatly outperformed their ERAs and almost nobody in baseball outside of Bronson Arroyo was as bad as Brad Penny while still getting thrown out there every 5th day – I don’t think he’s coming back. That rotation has a very strong chance of being the best in the AL outside of the Angels (maybe the Rays as well if Hellickson doesn’t regress).

As far as the Indians go… That was really the team that was heavily overachieving. And the Royals are almost certainly going to improve, but probably not 24 games on a team that has lost just 3 wins worth of useful player this offseason in Victor Martinez.

by thepartybird on Jan 21, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The tigers

are the definition of the plexiglass principal. 81-81 to 95-67 despite not being all that young. If Verlander goes 19-7 instead of 24-5, things aren’t quite so rosy for them.

And if Verlander becomes Liriano, and Cabrera gets a concussion, then the Tigers become the Twins.

But I like the tigers. I think the D-backs are more likely to regress. though they remind me a bit of the Rangers. Young, and very good, and likely to get better.

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by iblum on Jan 22, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

brewers, dbacks, cards are all less likely to return than the Rays. Philly more likely.

I know i’m picking on the NLC, but it’s hard to see either STL or MIL being much competition for cincy. easy to say these things before the season of course. i know that’s kicking two NLC teams out, but it’s more likely to me that the braves or marlins show up than the cards or brewers in the WC.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 21, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

most projections i've seen have the ALE as a tossup between TB, BOS, NYY

all within 3-4 wins of each other. I don’t think you can conclusively say that one is more likely than the other. In that regard I’d move the Yanks way up. It’s almost a certainty (before injuries) that the AL teams will be Detroit and 3 of TEX/LAA, TB/BOS/NYY.

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by pudieron89 on Jan 21, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I think almost any of these teams could repeat based off what they’ve done this offseason, but the least likely will be the Brewers, IMO. They just lost to much this offseason, between Fielder leaving and not having Braun until the middle of May. That is going to make it quite difficult for them, I think, but not impossible

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

They're also one losing streak away

from the inevitable Nyjer Morgan meltdown.

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Jan 21, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

And I can't wait

for him to just go away.

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you have way too much faith in the Cardinals

They should be near the top of the list instead of near the bottom. I think the Reds will be the team to beat in the NL Central, and I doubt that’s where the wild card will come from.

by MikeEl on Jan 21, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Re: AL Central

As a Tigers fan, I think that penciling the Tigers in for a playoff spot now is really dangerous. The issue is not so much losing Martinez, although that does hurt. It’s the likely regression from Avila and Peralta. I’d rather have Avila catching for me than almost anyone in the league, but he probably isn’t one of the top ten hitters in the AL, the way wOBA implies. I think you can also expect Peralta to fall off a bit.

Any improvements from Carlos Santana and Shin-Soo Choo, and a full season of Jimenez make the Central really close.

I don't want to hear any weak sh*t from Jason Grilli.

by cherub_daemon on Jan 21, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

This works both ways as well. One could make an argument saying that the Twins were worse than their mean in 2011. Part of that reason may be the litany of injuries that the team suffered as well as the fact that Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau were not themselves last year. With that said, I think the Twins will surprise people this season.

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by Jessy S on Jan 21, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said above, This regression mean works both ways

To clarify, some teams will take a dive while another, which you might not expect, will rise. In this case, the best example was the Tigers making the postseason in 2006. Since Rob Neyer ranked his teams, I get to rank mine.

1. Yankees: Sorry Rob, but the Yankees are due to a fall. Heck, the Red Sox will be on a mission to not miss the playoffs that they will clench the AL East the week after Labor Day.
2. Diamondbacks
3. Cardinals
4. Rangers
5. Tigers
6. Phillies
7. Brewers
8. Rays

Possible 2012 Postseason teams
1. Rays: AL Wild Card winner (Season ends too late for Two Wild Cards)
2. Brewers: NL Wild Card winner
3. Red Sox: AL East winner (First to clench their division)
4. Phillies: NL East winner
5. Twins: AL Central winner (Win Game 163 at Kansas City)
6. Mariners: AL West Winner
7. Pirates: NL Central Winner (Will clench on last official day of the season)
8. Dodgers: NL West Winner (Dodgers are just too talented to not contend for the playoffs)

Since I am predicting, here are some awards:

AL Comeback player of the Year: Joe Mauer
NL Comeback player of the Year: Johan Santana

AL Manager of the Year: Ron Washington
NL Manager of the Year: Donnie Baseball (You know who I am talking about)

AL Cy Young: Bruce Chen, Kansas City
NL Cy Young: Cliff Lee

AL MVP: Joe Mauer
NL MVP: Matt Kemp

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by Jessy S on Jan 21, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Bruce Chen?

I don’t know whether or not to take you seriously, but that would be the most awesome thing ever.

Don’t ask why I predict the Royals to win the division.

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by piazza62 on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a pretty hot pitcher in the homestretch

And I think he can have a fantastic 2012. As for the Royals, they will only get better provided they make wise decisions in the front office.

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by Jessy S on Jan 22, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

If the Mariners win the AL West I might just eat my hat.

by TheTypingFiend on Jan 21, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I will eat a hat made of glass and rhinestones if the Mariners win the AL West.

And if Chen wins the Cy Young, you should invest in some lottery tickets.

by thepartybird on Jan 21, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Mariners for the AL west?

What a moronic thing to say.

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on Jan 22, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

The chances

that Ron Washington will win Manager of the year with the Rangers missing the playoffs is lower than the chances of Bruce Ruffin winning the 2012 AL Cy Young, much less Bruce Chen.

and the Mariners would shock a lot of people if they won the AL West. plus, I’d almost guarantee an MVP for Ichiro if that did happen.

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by iblum on Jan 22, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Tag

I can’t wait to take a look at this again when the 2012 season starts to wind down.

by Backin'the'Backs on Jan 26, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good god

Those predictions are off the charts. I would like some explanations.

Mariners are not winning the west. Adding Montero still does not give them a proper offense. Chen winning the CY Young is laughable. And yes, the Yankees may regress, but still look to see them in the hunt. They did win 97 games last year and all..

by M0NSTERMIKE on Jan 21, 2012 7:16 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

97 wins

in the AL East. Can’t regress much more in that division and expect to make the playoffs

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by imstillhungry95 on Jan 21, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It is hard to say, but anything can happen

I was just having fun with the predictions anyway.

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by Jessy S on Jan 22, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter is 37

Berkman is 35, and his 2011 was his best season since 2008.

Wainwright and Beltran – no sure bet themselves – might allow the Cards to tread water, but even that’s optimistic. They might do OK in a weak division, but that’s the most I’d say for them. Reds 89 wins, Cards 85, Brewers 82.

by JRoth95 on Jan 21, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Cleveland has room to improve... though not by a ton.

Ubaldo and Lowe for a full season, even without Carmona/Heredia, is a huge improvement. Say what you will about Kipnis and Asdrubal’s defense backing up those three or four excellent groundballers… I still think those two guys will make a little difference. Now if the Indians had a GOOD infield defense to go with Masterson, Jimenez, Lowe, and Carmona, I think we’d be having some fun conversations. It’s almost as though the GM has a specific gameplan, but doesn’t realize that his middle-infield defense is bad.

It’s a bummer that they have middle infielders with good bats and no glove, considering the guys on the mound.

by Real Tom on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

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