Jan 18, 2012 - Think about the typical internet commenter. Oh, not you. You're special. You've found your way to the Algonquin Roundtable of the sports-loving internet. You're right to feel good about yourself. We still deal with fourth-grade potty humor here, but on a good day it's elevated to a seventh-grade level.
But SB Nation isn't a collection of closed, elitist communities. It's free to anyone, and it represents an open exchange of ideas based on a shared passion for sports. Even hockey. And sometimes, some of those other internet users find their way out of Dark Territory and mingle with you.
Maybe one day, one of those internet-using goofs figures out how to do something awful -- maybe they figure out where to find an illegal stream of a sporting event. Instead of getting a digital signal sent to an electronic contraption where they can watch the game, they get a digital signal sent to an unapproved electronic contraption where they can watch the game. And before society collapsed because of their actions, they might post a link on Baseball Nation.
hey check out this stream its the homer derby in rel time lolhttp://live-czech-vid.fr/event/42492320/berman/backbackbackback
And now because of that, Baseball Nation could be shut down. Poof. Prior restraint and everything. From the official Vox Media statement on SOPA:
Vox Media may find our domain names to be the subject of an in rem lawsuit as a result of users posting unlawful video clips. We may find that payment providers proactively turn off payment accounts for any sites that have been the subject of a recent copyright claim, however frivolous. We may find that a service provider decides to redirect our domain names away from our content as a knee-jerk reaction to a single unsubstantiated complaint.
If SOPA is enacted into law, what would be the consequences for a forum like this one? Would Baseball Nation need to have every comment wait for moderation before it becomes live on the site? If so, we'd almost certainly miss out on passionate 663-comment debates that are fostered and encouraged by the auto-refreshing comments here. But if there's a chance that one of those instant comments contains a link to a torrent, streaming video site, or hosted illegal video, it wouldn't be worth it. That conversational feel would be lost -- a casualty in the War on Copyright Abuse, which is just as likely to work as that War on Drugs that eliminated illegal narcotics for good.
So for these reasons, Baseball Nation stands behind the official Vox Media position. Well, we're not sure about Sullivan. He's kind of a nihilist. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of being a Mariners fan, dude, at least it's an ethos. The rest of us encourage you to read the official Vox Media statement, and think about SOPA and PIPA. If there's something you can do -- even if it's as small as e-mailing or calling your U.S. representative -- do it.
Copyright laws are important. They help reward artists and authors for their work, which in turn helps foster creativity and output. But try again, lawmakers. This bill is kind of a turd.
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Man, looking at Mariners stuff on B-R really shook you, huh, Grant?
Sullivan stares into that abyss every day.
My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!
Pithy.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Adam Kennedy's page is a bottomless chasm.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
OMG CHAMPAGNE ROOM
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
by jhiat00 on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions
Call your congress people! I did!
by Cap M on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions
I called your congress people too!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
COOL, LET'S CALL PEOPLE SOME MORE.
by Cap M on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
HEY HARRY REID DO YOU HAVE PRINCE ALBERT IN A CAN?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
HEY PRINCE ALBERT, DO YOU HAVE A HARRY REID?
by Cap M on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for this
My already high respect for sb nation has gone up
by Max Abrams on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Awesome.
Cheers to you & SBNation for this.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions
Rec'd.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Or I would if I could. WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME LIKE THIS, BRISBEE?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'll Rec your Rec
by Cap M on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Amen
by GBSimons on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions
LOL read more: Seattle Mariners.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Good URL for the HR Derby. But probably not enough "back"s.
by JulioBernazard on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Would fan posts be a thing of the past too?
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by Dan McCloskey on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions
DNS blocking provisions would probably shut down the network as a whole. So, citations and links to outside media via FanPosts and FanShots would probably be gone, despite their non-infringing nature.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I guess Diaries would be out of the question.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dear Diary,
I just can’t stop thinking about Adrian Gonzalez.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
by jhiat00 on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
A few facts about SOPA:
1) It requires a Federal Justice Dept. action to enable shutdown of a site
2) It requires a Federal Judge to approve the Justice Department action
This is not a case of “Gee, I don’t like your content, let’s kill your site in total”. What they are after is the ability to end the rampant downloading of copyright material from sites designed to allow copying. Sites like Baseball Nation and SB Nation are not going to be targeted just because a few links were posted to clips of copyrighted material. I’m not a big fan of the MPAA, RIAA, and all the other industry associations wanting to bolster their pocketbooks by getting people to buy their products rather than download off the Internet, but it isn’t the censorship shroud so many people are fearing either.
By the way, the Government has had the tools for years to stop access to any site for national security reasons. After all, they control the DNS servers used by all to reach the web sites we use on a daily basis. All they need to do is block the entry.
by GoDogGo on Jan 18, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
The big problem with SOPA
is that the companies already shut down “rogue websites” without broad, legislation-backed control like the bill will grant them.
But that is what this is all about. Control. And money, of course. Despite the copyright moguls crying poor over piracy, the evidence that piracy is costing them meaningfully is flimsy at best, and the evidence that this will fix the problem is even flimsier. The bill is fundamentally flawed, as it fails to adequately address the problematic infringers. The DMCA is not by any means perfect, but the safe harbor provided to the hosts of content is critical to a free internet. By putting the onus on those providers to police, you are inherently stifling them.
The OPEN Act is a much better, more researched piece of legislation than either SOPA or PIPA, and it still could probably be better if the real aim of those bills is even to fight piracy. I’m in favor of anti-piracy legislation; it should just be the right bill.
Maybe the MPAA, RIAA, and their cohorts would responsibly handle the powers granted to them until SOPA or PIPA. But given their track record, I’d just as soon not give them the opportunity to make us look like fools.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 18, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
In protest of SOPA...
… I will not be commenting on the site today.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions
…except for that one.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
…and that one, but that was just clarification.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
…and that one, obviously.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
…well, shit.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also...
… I’m not going to wash myself with SOPA today, and I might not tomorrow, either.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions
…to be honest, it’s been kind of an ongoing protest for a good while now.
by Jason Brannon on Jan 18, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
"copyright laws are important"
Sure they’re important, but that doesn’t mean they’re good. For an alternate viewpoint, see Against Intellectual Property, Stephen Kinsella .
by hotwater2 on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions
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