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Reviewing 'Moneyball' as a Movie

Art is a lie that tells the truth.
- Pablo Picasso

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I saw Moneyball five nights before its official release, at a press screening.

I saw it again Friday night, in a packed movie theater. It wasn't until then that I fully appreciated how well the movie was made.

What makes Moneyball such a fine film is that it works on so many different levels.

It works as a comedy. If you were reading the script, you might not laugh once. Here are just a few lines from the movie, out of context ...

You gotta carry the 1.

You want this door closed?

I added the please at the end.

I know it's a metaphor.

I'm not saying those lines got huge laughs from the audience. But they got knowing chuckles in the press screening, and more from the slightly less sophisticated (or, if you prefer, jaded) audience in the theater Friday night. There were other moments like those. When the filmmakers go for laughs, they get them. And they're not cheap laughs. They're earned by the situations and the characters and the timing and the words. Hey, I love Talladega Nights and Anchorman as much as anyone. But there's still a place for brilliantly scripted comedy, too.

The movie also works as a drama, in the sense that we care about these people.

Okay, the truth is that we care about one person: Billy Beane.

But that's enough. Because "Billy Beane" is an incredibly compelling character.

More compelling than he was in the book, even.

The Billy Beane in the book swears with some great enthusiasm and frequency. The Billy Beane in the movie does not. The Billy Beane in the book seems to have little interest in anything but winning. The Billy Beane in the movie is a devoted father. This was a smart tradeoff. For one thing, I suspect it made the Billy Beane in real life exceptionally happy. The real Billy wished the more sensitive, loving aspects of his personality had showed up in the book.

Well, now they're here and a lot more people will see the movie than read the book.


Rob Neyer: "Moneyball and Me"

What most fans of Field of Dreams seem to love about that movie, more than anything, is the father-son stuff. I found the father-daughter stuff in Moneyball -- none of which is in the book -- far more compelling, because it seems far more real.

One of my favorite moments in the film happens shortly after my least-favorite moment in the film.

First, Billy shows up at his ex-wife's home, to collect his daughter Casey for an outing. Casey's not home, so Billy's stuck in an awkward conversation with his ex-wife and her new mate, played by Spike Jonze. The Jonze character is played with an extreme effeminacy, which I found both unnecessary and terribly distracting.*

* There is one other terribly false note in the movie, which pains me to mention because I have admired Philip Seymour Hoffman's work for so long. But he is terribly miscast as Art Howe, and I cringed through almost every scene in which Hoffman appears. The movie works so hard at verisimilitude elsewhere, but among the few character roles for which Hoffman is obviously ill-suited, "lifetime baseball man" is certainly one.

We cut straight from that scene to a music store, in which Billy and Casey are looking at guitars. Of course this wasn't in the book. But it works. Billy Beane needs to be humanized, and the scene humanizes him in about three minutes. It's bravura filmmaking, in its sublety.

There's another thing at the very end, and if you haven't seen the movie yet you might want to skip these next few grafs ... Billy has been given an exceptionally generous offer to leave the Athletics and run the Boston Red Sox. As you no doubt remember, this absolutely did happen. What's not in the movie is that Billy actually did accept that offer. Only to change his mind a few days later. In the movie, he's still considering the offer while driving his pickup truck -- there's a lot of pickup-truck driving in the movie -- and pops into the CD player a disc Casey has given him. In the music-store scene, she'd played a bit of a song on a guitar and hummed along. Billy asked her if she might someday sing to him. She says she might.

Anyway, he pops in the disc. First Casey tells him that she hopes he doesn't take the Red Sox job, but that he's been a good dad. Then she sings a song. This song. It's a good song, and Casey sings it well. But there's a twist. In the real song, there's this bit of lyric at the end:

I want my money back
I want my money back
I want my money back
Just enjoy the show

Except Casey sings her own version:

You're such a loser, Dad
You're such a loser, Dad
You're such a loser, Dad
Just enjoy the show

In professional sports, there's no epithet worse than loser ... but of course, in this context -- the context of a loving relationship within a movie that's less about winning than thinking -- it's not an epithet at all. It's a term of endearment, a message of love from a daughter to her father and also from the filmmakers to us ... It doesn't matter if the A's didn't win the World Series. It didn't matter if Billy Beane was, and still is, a "loser" according to the traditional standard. He's a winner because he fought the good fight and because his daughter loves him enough to sing him a song, and tease him.

It works as a baseball movie, too.

Jeff Passan's an outstanding writer, one with whom I agree about almost everything. Except then he went and wrote this piece about Moneyball, with which I disagree about almost everything. Passan's big finish:

"Moneyball" tries to make us care that Beane's master plan -- the one that in reality started years earlier -- climaxed as the A's won their 20th consecutive game in dramatic fashion. And some might. Movie critics seem to enjoy it. Pitt's presence dominates the screen. It's just not a very good baseball movie.

They don't make those anymore.

Honestly, I don't have any idea what in the hell he's talking about. Passan lists the following among "baseball movies" he admires:

Field of Dreams
Major League
Bull Durham
The Bad News Bears
The Natural
Bang the Drum Slowly
Pride of the Yankees
A League of Their Own
Eight Men Out
The Sandlot

I admire some of those quite a lot, and some I don't. But does Passan seriously mean to suggest that Moneyball can't comfortably take its place among them? He does have his reasons, but apparently I'm not smart enough to understand them. You should read his piece; maybe you can explain it to me.

It's really too early for me to do this, but at the moment I would rank my favorite baseball-related movies like this:

1. Bull Durham
2. Moneyball
3. The Natural
4. The Bad News Bears
5. Eight Men Out
6. Sugar

See what I did there? I didn't say these are my favorite baseball movies. Is Bull Durham really about baseball, per se? Or is it about sex and love and experience and failure and life, with baseball serving as a delightful backdrop? I will argue that if it were really a baseball movie, Ron Shelton would have found someone for the role of Nuke LaLoosh who could actually throw a baseball.

The Natural? Temptation and redemption (and yes, baseball). Field of Dreams? I don't care for it, but either way it's hardly a baseball movie. It's about fathers and sons and dreams and faith and (again) redemption.

I've read a lot of reviews written by baseball writers, which is great except most of them (including me, of course) don't know a damned thing about the movies. The most perceptive review I've read is Manohla Dargis's in The New York Times:

Mr. Miller, largely shaking off the official art-house pretensions of his breakout feature, "Capote," takes all this seemingly dry, dusty, inside-baseball stuff and turns it into the kind of all-too-rare pleasurable Hollywood diversion that gives you a contact high. He still has his serious, or rather too-serious, side: he bookends the story with ophthalmologically close shots of Billy’s eyes shining in the dark, as if soliciting you to peep into the windows of a soul that, as much as any man’s or woman’s can be revealed, emerges through the script and Mr. Pitt’s fully inhabited, appealingly barbed performance. There are some overhead shots of the A’s emerald field too, including one of a large American flag being unfurled, that feel like the efforts of a director needlessly looking for big symbolic moments, perhaps particularly post-Sept. 11.

That last bit, I have to mention, seems the opposite of perceptive. That "large American flag being unfurled"? By the actual standards of such things, it's actually a tiny American flag, the point being that the A's were too poor to afford anything suitably large. That's the way I read it, anyway. It was a subtle thing, though, and I might be wrong.

That bit about the movie giving us a "contact high," though? That's dead on. Groundhog Day was like that. Some movies aspire to being a "feel-good hit," but director Bennett Miller and his collaborators are going for something else entirely. They're not nearly as interested in making you feel good, as in making you feel smart.

I don't know about you, but I know which of those I prefer for my $10.50 at the local movie house.

Getting back to Passan's critique for a moment ... This is as baseball a baseball movie as I've seen in a long, long time. With one exception, the baseball players are played by actual baseball players. The film was shot in real baseball stadiums, in real locker rooms, in real Oakland Coliseum offices, etc. There are real pages from real Bill James Baseball Abstracts, and real footage of Kevin Youkilis and Jeremy Brown in the minor leagues.


These Questions 3: Michael Lewis

What struck me, as much as anything, was how much baseball is packed in there. And always to good effect. The Jeremy Brown footage isn't gratuitous; it connects us to the A's draft strategy -- which otherwise isn't mentioned at all -- and it also sets up one of the lovelier exchanges between Billy Beane and Peter Brand (Jonah Hill as a nerdy version of Paul DePodesta). The screenwriters took nearly all of the high points of Michael Lewis's book, threw them at a refrigerator like a bunch of word magnets, then reassembled them into a fantastic script.

Which is to say, they did what everyone said couldn't be done.

They had some help, of course. Particularly from the director and the editor.

I know another baseball writer who liked the movie, but thought it was too long.

I think it was too short. I would have cut the Spike Jonze scene, but otherwise I wouldn't cut a single second. I agree with my mom: I would have watched another hour and I hope there's a longer director's cut. One of the reasons the movie might seem long is that it's punctuated by silences. When you see it, or when you see it again, try to notice how often the silences stretch longer than you're used to hearing in Hollywood movies (let alone TV programs).

Could the director and the editor have cut five or 10 minutes? Easily.

Would the film be as affecting if they had? Hardly.

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Thanks for the review, Rob

I’m hoping to see the movie tonight, and have been surprised at the curious disjointedness between reviews from baseball writers vs reviews from film writers. It’s refreshing to read the perspective of a baseball man who is also knowledgeable about movies – that is, someone more than merely a “movie buff,” but who has put time and effort into understanding film analysis the way sabermetricians work to understand baseball.

by Tarrsk on Sep 26, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Good review. But FYI, the Jeremy Brown clip in the movie wasn’t legit, it was reenacted.

by Carl Hafer on Sep 26, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

I’m assuming you’re right about this, and my first take was, "Wait, was Jeremy Brown really that fat? (probably not)

Do you have a source, though? Ah, I can try to find it myself. I should add a note at the bottom of the review. Thanks again. -r

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking it may have been re-enacted because it would’ve been rare for a college game to be covered by three camera angles. But that was a little part of the movie that I really liked.

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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

err minor league, not college.

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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

College game

According to the book, it was a minor league game after Brown was drafted. But then again, that would be the 2002 draft and so this whole thing happens after the film is over.

"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

by achiappanza on Oct 16, 2011 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would it be too much trouble to contact Jeremy Brown directly on that?

I would figure you would have the resources to do so…

Oddly, I question whether it ever happened, since something vaguely similar to that happened to Nick Swisher at Single-A Modesto in 2003. Granted, in Swish’s case he walked to first on ball 3, and then returned to the plate to hit a HR on the following pitch. While watching that scene in Moneyball it struck me in both that Jeremy Brown wasn’t that fat, and that they may written that scene in particular to get Brown a mention in the film.

Nick Swisher is handsome.

by ChrisCEIT on Oct 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw this

I was thrilled at seeing the Brown clip, but after thinking more about it, I also think this was re-enacted. From the pictures of Brown I’ve seen, he was not only not that fat, but not that dark. He’s a very white dude.

"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

by achiappanza on Oct 16, 2011 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting Review....

… but I still don’t want to see the movie— ever. I’d rather have a documentary film made of the book but documentaries, except for a rare few, don’t make money, Hollywood money.

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "Human,All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Sep 26, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I saw it

and liked it so much I went out and bought the book on Saturday. Yes, probably one of the few who saw the movie before reading the book.
I am not sure what took me so long to buy the book, but I like what I have read so far.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s a bit of general advice: the worst possible people to provide a review of a movie based on a specific subculture are people steeped in that subculture. They get too far into the weeds criticizing the verisimilitude (or lack thereof) and forget that it’s a movie, two ours of pop culture. You saw this if you read geek blogs after The Social Network came out, and you see it with Moneyball. As a historical record, it’s obviously (and intentionally) crap. As a movie, it’s really well done.

by FredOx on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, yes but ...

I am fairly steeped in that subculture.

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great review, Rob

I agree with your points, especially that the Spike Jonze scene didn’t add anything to the film. Should have been cut.

Wish they incorporated the draft into the movie, but it was a fantastic movie. Loved the fact that the movie does humanize Billy Beane, a part that Brad Pitt played exceptionally well. Really enjoyed the battle between Beane and Grady Fuson (who also enjoyed the movie from what I’ve read). And Jonah Hill did an fantastic job as Peter Brand, er, Paul DePodesta (when I first heard Jonah Hill would be filling that role, I thought there was no way he could pull it off).

There are some A’s fans that are not happy with the movie because they wish it followed more closely to the book. But they have to realize that Hollywood couldn’t make a movie like that. Yeah, that would be interesting to us A’s fans, or a documentary about the subject would be fascinating to us, but it wouldn’t play out well to an audience that isn’t too familiar with Moneyball. So I though they did a great job with how they created the movie.

Now I might even go see it again tonight.

by mills16 on Sep 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I could definitely see it a third time.

At the theater, I mean. Obviously, I’ll watch the hell out of it on HBO next year.

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, my stars!

I gave it four stars in the poll.

I’m a tough grader, though. I reserve 5 stars for legitimately great movies. I’m not sure if I’ve seen a 5-star movie this year. Will have to check the archives. But this one might gotten 5 stars from me, if not for Spike Jonze and Philip Seymour Hoffman.

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Haven't seen Drive (yet).

Did see the other two. Would give Tree of Life four stars, Midnight in Paris … oh, probably three-and-a-half stars. If pushed to decide between 3 and 4, I would have to see it again.

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't recommend Drive highly enough. Fantastic.

Maybe it was the English Lit major in me, but I loved Midnight in Paris, especially Corey Stoll as Hemingway.

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by Old Man Duggan on Sep 26, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moneyball The Book

My least favorite part of the book was the chapter regarding the draft. To me, it made Beane and company seem awfully arrogant. When people like the “fat scout” aren’t good enough to even be named (despite the fact that most scouts are good at their jobs), I just cringe and chalk it up to bad writing. I mean, these people have families to and that is a stigma associated with some of them. It seemed that the only reason scouts were insulted like that in the book was for Lewis to prove a point new vs. old way of thinking. (I know he’s a friend Rob, just calling it how I see it.)

My question: how does the movie handle this? I know this scene must figure fairly prominent, so is this done a little better especially how most people in the SABR community even promote the combined stats AND scouting approach?

by count sutton on Sep 26, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

They cut it out.

The draft is completely omitted from the movie

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by garik16 on Sep 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

(The Scout conflict is in the movie, but the draft is COMPLETELY omitted)

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by garik16 on Sep 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie was great and kept my non-baseball loving girlfriend very interested. As a baseball fan, I was bemused by how none of the A’s success was attributed to their starting pitching (Zito, Hudson & Mulder) and their great left side of the infield (Tejeda & Chavez).

by Patrick C. Mackin on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Ibanez

Raul Ibanez looked alot different in the movie than he does in real life…..once you see the movie you will know what I am talking about.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 26, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I liked the movie and so did my wife

I didn’t like the Art howe scenes, either. Of course, I’ve always liked Art Howe (he was personally nice to me once, in addition to the fact that I grew up an Astros fan). It seems to me that maybe Howe wasn’t on board or he might have faded into the background some in that situation (I’ll believe insiders over my own hunches, obviously), but making Art Howe into a fat grumpy curmudgeon seems out of place. It detracted from the movie for me.

I liked the scene with the new boyfriend trying to act cool in front of Billy Beane and failing. To me, it was funny. It was one of the times I laughed.

by Stephen Suffron on Sep 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

I rarely find that sort of effeminacy funny. Seems like an awfully cheap laugh to me. Especially in the context of a movie that otherwise avoids cheap laughs.

by Rob Neyer on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't remember him being effeminant

as much as wimpy and intimidated, which is understandable. How intimidated would you be if your wife’s ex looked like Brad Pitt and ran a Major League baseball team? But you’d still want to try to be his friend so he wouldn’t want to steal your wife. I thought the awkwardness was funny. Maybe it was a little cheap, but so was making Chad Bradford’s faith wide-eyed and spacey and gruffly dismissed by Pitt. I guess we’re all sensitive to different things.

by Stephen Suffron on Sep 26, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradford's faith

Yeah, that scene with Bradford seemed forced. He was presented as some fresh from the farm stereotype just tryin’ to do his honest best to re-ward Mister Beane’s faith in him.

by uneasy rider on Sep 27, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't Seen It Yet

But I think that Rob really hit home on this one. There’s a difference between a “Baseball Movie” and a “Baseball-Related Movie”. The key seems to be whether or not you were hoping for a dramatization (which it seems to be), or a documentary (which it does not seem to be).

by Jason Hunt on Sep 26, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it will grow on me…

For me the movie was ok but nothing special. I was a big Liar’s Poker fan and read the book when it first came out. Definitely not on the top of baseball related movies. Although it might have something to do with the fact I saw those in my teens. Baseball is not as important now as it was 20 years ago when I saw most of the other movies…

by Rod Melo on Sep 26, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

My wife made an interesting comment after we saw “Moneyball,” something to the effect of it kept her in suspense and she wanted to keep watching to see if the theories worked. I thought this was awesome, that the movie conjured up rooting for Beane and the A’s but also rooting for sabermetrics and intellectualism.

by Shaun Payne on Sep 26, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Haven’t seen the movie yet, although I probably will, now (I was not planning to, originally. Like many others, I couldn’t see how a movie I’d want to see could be made out of that book).

But there are really silent bits? I can’t recall seeing a US movie with a completely silent part in ten or twenty years (not even a second or two; there’s always some noise in the background, at least).

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by AMusingFool on Sep 27, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I loved the movie! I actually thought the scenes with the daughter seemed a bit forced, like they were trying too hard to humanize him (I personally thought the Clash and Joe Strummer posters in his office did a better job of that) and I could’ve also done with a few less flashback scenes. But I thought the acting was great and the dialogue was excellent. I was surprised at how funny it was (people were laughing out loud at the theater I went to).

I definitely want to go watch it again.

by BooRadley on Sep 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I gave it 4 stars

but I prefer to give it 3.5 stars. I thought it was a good movie but I was a little disappointed because I expected to love it. I guess my expectations were a bit too high. I will see again once it reaches the discount theaters. The narrative arc of Billy Beane risking his job to change the status quo, while fascinating, simply isn’t true. I realize complete historical accuracy is a silly way to judge a movie, but I kept thinking, “What the hell is this crap about Billy might get fire nonsense,” while watching the movie. I think if I wasn’t familiar with the early 2000s A’s, I would have enjoyed the move more. I thought it was good movie, but I always didn’t enjoy because of silly stuff like this.

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by birdman on Sep 27, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I got it from Jerry Crasnick’s ESPN piece about Moneyball

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7007945/2002-moneyball-draft-class-review

Don’t know if that’s official or not, but I agree that Brown looked too fat, and the infielders were acting a little strange too, so I’m inclined to believe it was recreated.

by Carl Hafer on Sep 27, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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