Red Sox Rich In MVP Candidates

I thought WPA meant Win Probability Added. Are these to things the same?

Win Player Average is not a thing.

I think what you see here is a strong synergistic effect. great teams have multiple players that are playing near-MVP levels. bad teams can have MVP-caliber team (A-Rod in Texas, etc.), but great teams assemble players that, once all together in a lineup, complement each other.

For example, how many extra fastballs does AG get because JE or DP is on 1B ready to sprint to 2B? What impact does that have on his Avg. and Slg.?

Curtis Granderson has been the most valuable player in the American League this season. Without Bautista, the Jays are in 4th place. Without one of Pedroia, Gonzalez or Ellsbury, the Red Sox are still a first place team. Without Granderson, the Yankees are battling with the Rays for 2nd place in the AL East. Granderson has been the catalyst in that potent Yankee offense that has seen injuries and mediocre performances from plenty of its members.

I hate the New York Yankees, but I would say Curtis Granderson has been the most valuable player in the American League this season.

but that sure as shit wasnt it. Going by sum inane logic where we not only penalize a player for how bad the rest of his team is, but now we’re penalizing them for being too good? That’s completely insane.

Funnily enuff the Yanks have 2 players in the top dozen in WAR and one of those players ISNT Texiera(17th), the current AL HR Leader (non-Bautista edition). It’s you guessed it, speedy lil Brett Gardener.

The same way Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright split votes for the Cy Young the past few years, Pedroia, Ellsbury and Gonzalez are all going to split votes for the MVP this year. There’s not a clear cut MVP on that team, how are you going to decide which one is the clear cut MVP of the league?

Bautista is arguably the best player in the American League, but will not win the MVP because his team did nothing and realistically his performance thus far has not been noticeably better than any of the other 4 candidates (3 Sox and Granderson).

Granderson, on the other hand, is the standout MVP on a team that, although lacking in talent compared to the Red Sox, has had control of a playoff spot from Opening Day.

For anyone who thinks Ellsbury is deserving, switch out Granderson for him in the Red Sox lineup and tell me they aren’t a better team offensively and defensively. That knocks Ellsbury out right there, bringing us down to Granderson, Gonzalez and Pedroia (and Miguel Cabrera just because a late surge from him could easily bring him home the trophy).

So, relax Brendl.

Pedroia, Ellsbury and Gonzalez are all going to split votes for the MVP this year. There’s not a clear cut MVP on that team…

Then it’s a very good thing the Blue Jays dont have that problem.

Bautista is arguably the best player in the American League, but will not win the MVP because his team did nothing …

Last I saw all those games Tor played still count in the standings, yes even the ones against the RS and Yanks. And .500 isnt a nothing record either unless you’re using sum kind of George Dubba fuzzy math where all wins under 90 equal 0.

Granderson, on the other hand, is the standout MVP on a team that, although lacking in talent,,,

My oh my those poor Yankess and the lack of talents they’re $200+ mil payroll wont buy them, Thk god they have schlub pitchers like CY candidate Sabathia and HOF closer Rivera to fall back on. Oh u meant the lineup thought right? The same lineup that has 6 of the top 30 WAR players one of which actually leads the AL in HR’s (non Bautista division). My god what a hardship it must be having 2 holes in the lineup.

For anyone who thinks Ellsbury is deserving, switch out Granderson Bautista for him in the Red Sox lineup and tell me they aren’t a better team offensively and defensively.

My thoughts exactly.