In this post, we explore the world of batter tempo, which might be the area in which Michael Bourn and Carlos Pena are least alike. Or it might not be that area.
Dec 12, 2011 - PITCHfx is neat. You're probably familiar with PITCHfx, even if you didn't know it. PITCHfx is what's responsible for the pitch velocity and movement information you see in MLB Gameday. PITCHfx is also responsible for a lot of other information. PITCHfx tracks pretty much every pitch in the major leagues, and it's done so since 2008.
Every pitch in PITCHfx comes with a timestamp. Ordinarily this timestamp is of little analytical use, unless you're interested in a pitcher's pace. That is, the amount of time that a pitcher takes in between pitches. We all know that there are slow pitchers, fast pitchers and Mark Buehrle. PITCHfx allows us to quantify the differences.
Not all that long ago, FanGraphs started providing pitcher pace information. I thought this was fairly common knowledge, but maybe it wasn't, since it turns out my co-writers were unaware. Looking over the pitcher pace leaderboards reveals some information you could've guessed, and some information you probably couldn't. Buehrle is super fast. Jonathan Papelbon and Rafael Betancourt are super slow. Garrett Olson is neither.
But it stands to reason that, where there are pitcher pace leaderboards, there are also batter pace leaderboards. And indeed, there they are, tucked away on FanGraphs. It's the same data, just split in a different way, so why not provide it, right? Batters get less attention for their tempo than pitchers do, which makes sense, given that it's ultimately the pitchers who are in control. But batters still have some influence over the pace of an at bat, so it's worth a quick investigation into the numbers.
I set the leaderboard to show all data from between 2008-2011. I then set a minimum of 1,000 plate appearances to avoid potential sample-size issues, even though 1,000 plate appearances is certainly way higher than I need. This gave me a player pool of 298 batters.
The five (six) fastest paces?
(1) Michael Bourn, 18.7 seconds between pitches
(2) Chris Getz, 19.2
(3) Ichiro, 19.3
(4t) Nyjer Morgan, 19.4
(4t) David Eckstein, 19.4
(4t) Maicer Izturis, 19.4
The five slowest paces?
(1) Carlos Pena, 27.6 seconds between pitches
(2) Manny Ramirez, 26.0
(3) Robinson Cano, 25.6
(4) Ryan Braun, 25.5
(5) Reed Johnson, 25.4
Regarding whether or not there's anything repeatable here, Bourn's paces over each of the four seasons were 19.0, 18.7, 18.8 and 18.6. Pena's paces over each of the four seasons were 27.6, 27.0, 27.4 and 28.4. These examples don't prove anything, but they do strongly suggest some things.
So those are the extremes, and that's the spread. What I want to focus on now are Bourn and Pena, since they stand out from the rest of the pack. Bourn's pace is half a second faster than the runner-up. Pena's pace is more than one and a half seconds slower than the runner-up. I went to the footage and found what I consider to be representative intervals between pitches to Michael Bourn and Carlos Pena. I did not do a thorough search and both of the following .gifs come from the same series. How do these guys influence the pace?
Bourn:
Pena:
I'm sorry that those .gifs were so slow to load. They are, out of necessity, long .gifs. As they were loading, you had time to reflect upon the fact that you were waiting to watch .gifs of batters in between pitches. These are probably two of the worst .gifs ever made.
Bourn never drifts far from the box. He steps out, briefly, then he steps right back in, ready. Pena, meanwhile, steps further from the box, then digs, swings, adjusts his clothing, and God knows what else while the camera isn't looking at him. It isn't a substantial delay, but it's a delay.
Interestingly, who comes to mind when you think of a batter who slows down the pace? Nomar Garciaparra, right? It's Nomar Garciaparra. We have two years of data on Nomar. Between 2008-2009, Nomar's pace was a little under 21 seconds. A bit faster than average. What!
Now, pace is influenced by things like two-strike counts and at bats with runners on. Pitchers slow down in two-strike counts and when there are runners on, so Carlos Pena's "natural" pace isn't this exceptional, and neither is Michael Bourn's. But I'm not looking for true-talent pace, here; I'm looking for general pace, and Pena has had a slow pace, while Bourn has had a fast pace.
Since 2008, Bourn has averaged 4.0 pitches per plate appearance, and Pena has also averaged 4.0 pitches per plate appearance (there is a slight difference, in the hundredths). Bourn's average plate appearance has lasted 55.7 seconds, while Pena's average plate appearance has lasted 83.7 seconds. Using those averages, since 2008, Bourn has batted for about 39 hours while Pena has batted for about 55 hours, and Bourn even has a 154-plate appearance advantage. This is one of those things that is really incredible and really irrelevant at the same time. Statistics!
So anyway, consider this something of an introduction to batter pace. Go play around for yourself. You might learn something. And if you don't, at least you're on the Internet. To think, there are people who aren't on the Internet.
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by jctGamer on Dec 12, 2011 6:32 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
It'd be nice to see what is was like for Barry Bonds
Who never stepped out of the box during a PA.
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by troymccluresf on Dec 12, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions
I misread the title and was hoping for a sequel to pitch face :(
by Eyeball Kid on Dec 12, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 12, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
As did I...
by BennyGStein on Dec 12, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
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by tsunamijesus on Dec 12, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
How about the effect of a batter's position in the lineup?
I notice that the hitters with the fastest paces include a lot of leadoff hitters, such as Ichiro, Bourn, Izturis, and Morgan (didn’t he leadoff pre-Brewers?). Following the link, the next players on the list are Austin Jackson, Rollins, Pierre, and Fowler. As you noted, pitcher’s tend to take longer in between pitches when there are runners on base. These batters are guaranteed to come up at least once with nobody on base (to lead off the game), plus as many more times with the bases empty as any other player would expect to randomly accrue. This might artificially hasten their pace, by providing them with a larger-than-average quantity of PA’s with the bases empty.
On the other hand, the slower paces seem to be the middle-of-the-lineup sluggers: Pena, Manny, Cano, Braun. After them, V-Mart, Utley, Luke Scott and Konerko also crack the top-11. These guys are intentionally inserted behind the high-OBP guys so that they will collect a higher-than-average quantity of PA’s WITH runners on base, giving them an artificially slower pace. They may supplement this environment with a bunch of gimmicks, like Pena and his swinging/adjusting/etc, but then again, maybe he swings and adjusts more when there are runners on base as well? Or maybe it’s his antics that provide the 2-second difference between himself and Braun?
I’d be willing to bet that there is a strong correlation between lineup position and batter’s pace.
by ahhall on Dec 12, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions
Last year, just before Christmas,
MLB/the Pirates put out a DVD of the recently discovered video of the complete Game 7 of the 1960 World Series. (I also saw it in a special showing at a theater, which was a treat, fans chanting “Let’s Go, Bucs!” at the screen.)
Anyhoo, one of the things that struck me most about the game (which is a hell of a game, buy yourself a copy) was that the batters almost never stepped out of the box, and if they did, it was very briefly. For the most part, they got in the box and took a stance and stayed there, until the at-bat was finished. For one thing, few if any of them were wearing gloves, which gave them two less things to fiddle with between pitches. And the pitchers got a sign, wound up and threw.
Consequently, one of the great games in baseball history, a game that produced 19 runs and 24 hits, featured nine pitchers and decided the championship of the world, was played in 2:36.
Somewhere in the 50 years between then and now, baseball has slowed to a crawl, and it drives me nuts. When did this start to happen, and why, would make an interesting study. I’m sure TV is to blame, somehow, for much of it. But I wonder if it’s also because of a change in the way pitchers pitch. Guys like Gibson and Drysdale would have put you on your ass instantly if you Human Rain Delayed your at-bat. So maybe this trend started around 1969, with the rule changes that brought an end to the second deadball era and with the departure from the game of guys like Gibson and Drysdale. And maybe free-agency and spiraling contracts had something to do with it, where every at-bat was now worth hella lots more money or something. Any other guesses?
And BTW, how is it that the FASTEST guy in the box looks at a pitch every 19 seconds? I thought pitchers were supposed to deliver within 20 seconds. No wonder games take forever to play.
by bucdaddy on Dec 12, 2011 11:22 PM EST reply actions
Oops,
20 seconds when there’s nobody on base, I meant.
by bucdaddy on Dec 12, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
That's not quite the rule
Additionally, if we only looked at plate appearances with nobody on base, the fastest guy in the box would be much faster than 19 seconds.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 13, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
"much faster"
As someone pointed out above, the fast guys are mostly leadoff guys. Are they really coming up with men on base often enough to make a “much faster” difference?
But you’ve got the numbers, so I presume they do.
I should add that I see TV as the biggest culprit in games going on forever now. In addition to the fact TV has larded up the proceedings with commercials between innings, my theory is that TV simply has no incentive to help games move along faster. If games were played in an average of 2:30 instead of 3:30 (or whatever, and of course five hours for Yankees-Red Sox), that’s another hour of airtime ESPNetc. would have to fill, and almost anything it would fill with would be more expensive to produce than ballgames (this accounts for four-hour football games and three-hour basketball games too, IMO). I think TV would be happy if every game lasted eight hours.
MLB at least used to pretend from time to time that four-hour games were a problem (“We’re losing the children on the East Coast!”), and try to get umpires to speed things up a bit, but I don’t think it even does that much anymore and has capitulated.
by bucdaddy on Dec 13, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Vaguely surprised at Ichiro.
I would have thought anyone with a pre-pitch routine along those lines wouldn’t have been quite so quick. Wrong!
by Aussie Mariner on Dec 13, 2011 3:41 AM EST reply actions
Surprised this list isn't entirely made up of Yanks and Red Sox
and their agonizingly self-important, 10-minute long at bats when going head to head.
by David G on Dec 13, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions
EXACTLY
I was immediately thinking the same thing…more runners on base, the more time that pitchers are going to take, though maybe this was made with bases empty..I don’t know.
by George Allen on Dec 14, 2011 9:37 AM EST reply actions
Bet teamwise, Mariners may be ALL quickest.
due to their average.
by George Allen on Dec 14, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions
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