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SB Nation 2011-2012 MLB Free Agents
By Grant Brisbee - Editor
Yu Darvish is one of the most interesting players ever to come out of Japan. How much will teams pay just for the right to negotiate with him?
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Dec 12, 2011 - I'm no scout. Chances are, you aren't either. I've probably watched 180 Matt Cain starts over his career, and that's a conservative estimate. But if he started dropping his elbow or shortening his leg drive, and gave up hit after hit after hit, I wouldn't know the difference. I'd just yell at the TV and ask it to fix the things that are wrong in my life, which I do for just about every problem.
I certainly wouldn't be able to figure out what was going wrong with Cain, just as I have no idea what makes him so good. If you ever read something of mine that hints that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to scouting, reach through your screen and slap me.
Then I see a video like this …
… and now I'm a scout. Or at least I can pretend I am. Here's a snippet from the scouting report that I wrote based on that YouTube video:
* Oh man oh boy oh man, did you see that first pitch?
* What was that, a slider?
* Could've been a changeup, I suppose
* It was all, "Mmrrrrroooom," and then it dove like all "brwwwwwwoowwww"
* And the hitter was all, "Oh, no way"
* Then he threw a 144 kilometer-per-hour fastball. Not sure about this metric system fad, but I'm pretty sure that translates to a 142-mile-per-hour fastball!!!!!
* !
* I didn't watch the rest of the video because I started writing this report.
Yu Darvish has cartoonish numbers in the NPB -- the last time he had an ERA above 2.00, Brandon Webb won the National League Cy Young. Darvish is also just 25, the same age as pitchers you still think of as young unknowns, like Phil Hughes, Aaron Crow, and Homer Bailey. Twenty-five-year-old pitchers like this don't show up in free agency too often.
Wait, wait, put your wallet down. I can't sell you a Yu Darvish. I didn't mean to get you all worked up. I do not have the authority to sell you or your team a Yu Darvish. But he's out there, on the quasi-open market, just waiting for a team to throw money at him. Now that C.J. Wilson and Mark Buehrle are gone, all of your ace-type needs will be handed by the Edwin Jackson Express if you're not interested in Darvish. And if you can't get Jackson, you'll surely be interested in Hiroki Kuroda and the trick back of Roy Oswalt. And after that …
…
Dunno, Aaron Cook? Paul Maholm? Jason Marquis? You can see how there might be a sense of urgency for a team that thinks they have to make a big upgrade to their rotation, not just a patch job. Kuroda is underrated, and Jackson might have some untapped potential, but Darvish allows you to dream ace-like dreams. More importantly, it allows you to sell ace-like dreams to your fans, who buy tickets and hats and jackets and nachos and luxury suites.
But because of the silly posting system, a team can't just marlin a bag of money on a table and walk away with a signed contract. They first have to win a blind bid against all of the other interested teams.
MLB: And the winner of the Darvish posting is …Seven different teams: Yes? Yes?
MLB: Team X! Whose bid of $58,000,000 just beat out six other teams who offered $57,999,999!
Six different teams: Man, if we had known that, we would have offered more. We really want to pay this guy a lot of money.
Darvish's agent: Awesome!
Team X: Not so fast. Now we have exclusive negotiating rights. Our offer is this: $15/hr., plus benefits. Oh, and you have to give 10% of every paycheck back until that $58,000,000 is paid off.
Darvish's agent: Less awesome!
It's a weird system that seems only to benefit the Japanese teams that post their players for a sweet, sweet payday. It sure hoses the player.
The usual suspects will be in on Darvish. The Yankees are somewhat interested, as are the Red Sox, though both are a little wary because of previous NPB boondoggles (Kei Igawa for the Yankees, Daisuke Matuszaka for the Sox). The Mariners have some sound business reasons for signing Darvish, and the Marlins haven't signed a free agent this week.
The Rangers could use a C.J. Wilson replacement, and you can never tell what's in the paper bag that Ruben Amaro, Jr. is breathing into, though it's usually concentrated ace powder, and that can make a man do horrible, beautiful things. Everybody wants Yu! So who will get him?
Prediction: Nationals, posting fee of $41 million, and a contract of five years, $75 million. It'd be a substantial expense for a pitcher who hasn't proven a thing in Major League Baseball, but the Nats were rebuffed by both Buehrle and Wilson, and they're looking for someone to pair at the top of a rotation with Stephen Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann. They're also crazy enough to offer a $100 trillion posting fee because they're sick of rejection.
Read More: Homer Bailey (P - CIN), Phil Hughes (P - NYY), Brandon Webb (P - TEX), Mark Buehrle (P - FLA), Aaron Crow (P - KAN)
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where is the gyroball?! I WANT THE JAPANESE GYROBALL.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Dec 12, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions
I'm a Red Sox fan.
And I ain’t never seen no GYROBALL~!!
@#$%….
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
OTM | Silver Seven
by Bloggy on Dec 12, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
You're a Red Sox fan...
So I’m guessing you’ve never seen baseball being played either…
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
by Pig.Pen on Dec 12, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, look!
I guess that was some sort of attempt at a dig or something.
WELL DONEGalactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
@#$%ing Twit: @blogtard
OTM | Silver Seven
by Bloggy on Dec 13, 2011 6:41 AM EST up reply actions
@2:46 Black turf???
Riding the Bondswagon since 1993.
Proud father of Ashkon! Don't stop BELIEVIN'!!
by SixSixtyOne on Dec 12, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Koshien
The home of the Hanshin Tigers and the most celebrated amateur baseball event in the world.
by infimum on Dec 12, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Captions in English
Turn them on if you like gibberish with your Darvish!
by JamesU on Dec 12, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
144 km/h
Equals 89.4 MPH. Just for the record.
I made it through about 2 minutes of the video, and the highest number I saw was 152 km/h. That would be 94 mph.
For future reference, if you ever see a guy hitting 160 km/h, then he’s hitting 100mph.
Google could not translate the filthiness of those breaking balls into MLB metrics, however. You’re on your own in analyzing those.
by ahhall on Dec 12, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions
He hit 98 during the WBC in 2009
Don’t know if his velocity has changed since then (or if the pitch fx was off)
by TheBigStapler on Dec 12, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
He hit 100 at one of the WBCs
but I’m going to guess the gun was hot. Later that day it also registered him as throwing 142 mph (yes, miles, not kilometers) so obviously something was iffy… Unless he has the right arm of Jesus or something and has just been hiding it from us.
by moriv on Dec 12, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
He got up to 154 quite a bit in the video...
and touched 156 km/h (97 mph) once.
According to scouting reports, he sits 93-95 and touches 97.
The breaking balls are really something else though aren’t they? Not like he’s tossing them softly either, his more horizontal slider is sitting in the mid-80s. The vertical one is a bit slower, high-70s to low-80s, and the curveball is really just a change of pace pitch so it dips as far down as 59 MPH (95 km/h), similar to Zack Greinke’s. Has versatility without sacrificing tons of movement and power.
by moriv on Dec 12, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
He does an odd thing with his front leg
in the windup, where he picks it up, kind of lets it hang there for a split second, then brings his foot back to start the pitching motion. Would that be a balk in MLB?
by smk73 on Dec 12, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions
Unless there's a runner on base
a pitcher can’t balk. I know some pitchers go to the windup with a runner on third, so that’s one time it could be an issue.
by GBSimons on Dec 12, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for your thoughtful answer
and for not calling me a moron.
Both things are rare on these here Internets.
by smk73 on Dec 12, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ya but....
can he sac bunt?
by !Vive la Francoeur! on Dec 12, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions
Well, I can see a five year, $75 million outlay being the most I would give
But that would have to include the posting fee. Which means, he would get a five year, $25-35 million deal. I am not sure if he would be willing to come over for that amount. Perhaps with lots of performance/health incentives, say another $25-35 million, he would be willing to come over.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 12, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions
HAHA
Nice joke. If you think Darvish is signing for anything less than $10 million AAV guaranteed for 5-6 years, you’re off your rocker. He makes $6.75 million per year in the NPB, why the hell would he come to the MLB guaranteed only $5-7 million per year?
My prediction is $45 million posting, 6 years/$66 million contract. I may be off on the posting fee, but I think the contract will be pretty accurate. Now as for who will make the winning bid, I have no clue because unlike all the insiders I’m not delusional and don’t think I can read GM’s minds.
Every single team has said something to the effect of “He’s very talented, but we’ll have to see if he can fit into our budget.” Who’s bluffing and who’s telling the truth? No one knows, but for some reason certain reporters seem to think they know the true intentions behind Cashman, Anthopolous, etc.’s words. The favorites are the Rangers, Yankees, Nationals, and Blue Jays, most likely. Beyond that, guessing which one of them is going to place the largest bid is a shot in the dark.
by moriv on Dec 12, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well I did state I didn't think he would agree to it
But, the upside of my deal would be $14 million per year over five years ($70 million total), which is higher than your offer. The only difference is it splits some of the risk between the player and the team (especially since the team is already taking a huge risk via the posting fee).
by cookiedabookie on Dec 13, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
If he's so good....
…then why are there so many runners on 2B? I call bullsh*t.
by Undocorkscrew on Dec 12, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions
Well...
his WHIP is usually around 0.8… so obviously he’s not usually letting guys get on. Apparently just his best pitches happened to be with runners on 2nd a lot of the time. If anything it shows he’s good with RISP, so that’s another plus.
I don’t understand the ridiculous skepticism here. I get a little, sure, but to compare him to Kei Igawa is ridiculous. Hell, even Dice-K’s numbers are incomparable to his. Not to mention he’s a prototypical power pitcher with a few more MPH on his fastball than Dice-K, the type that fares much better in the MLB.
by moriv on Dec 12, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I was clearly joking. Big believer in Darvish....
by Undocorkscrew on Dec 13, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
I like how “marlin” has become a verb now. I’m gonna go marlin up a Diet Coke.
by Phrozen on Dec 12, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions
Woo, he doesn't have a Matsuzaka-like windup.
I approve. Watching Dice-K wanted to make me poke my eyeballs out, and sim games against him on 2K11.
by Aussie Mariner on Dec 13, 2011 3:46 AM EST reply actions
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