Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Is FSU Really The ACC's Most Valuable Team?

SB Nation World Series 2011: Cardinals vs. Rangers

2011 World Series: Tony La Russa 'Offended' By 'Moneyball'

Oct 27, 2011 - The postponement of Game 6 of the World Series on Wednesday gave Cardinals manager Tony La Russa a chance to play movie critic. He told reporters in St. Louis that he used the off day to go see "Moneyball", for the second time:

As for "Moneyball," La Russa said he went once already and walked out on it.

"It’s our tribute to all the scouts and baseball people that were dissed by ‘Moneyball,’" he said. "That’s why I walked out of ‘Moneyball.’"

Apparently, he stayed for the whole thing Wednesday night; here's one representative quote that was tweeted by a number of reporters:

La Russa on "Moneyball:" "Good actiing. But other than I that? I was offended by what the book represented.''
Oct 27 via TweetDeckFavoriteRetweetReply

 

Offended? Pretty strong language. Let's go back to the link from earlier to see why Tony might have been offended:

"On-base percentage is one of the most dangerous concepts of the last seven, eight years,’’ he said, "because it forces some executives and coaches and players to think that it’s all about getting on base by drawing walks. And the fact is that the guys that have the best on-base percentage are really dangerous hitters whenever they get a pitch in the strike zone.

"So if the pitcher knows that and the catcher knows that, they work the edges, and pretty soon it’s 2-and-1, 2-and-1 rather than 0-and-1 all the time.

"You watch your productive hitters in the big leagues, and they get a chance to drive in a run, they look for the first good strike, and the better the pitching, especially this time of the year, you get that first strike, that may be the last one that you get to see. So you’d better be ready to swing early. It’s not sitting up there and taking strike one, strike two so that you can work the count.’’

That's all well and good, but as you know if you've read Moneyball the book and/or seen the movie, the concept of "Moneyball" isn't "on-base percentage". It's leveraging something that other people in baseball aren't using to bring it to your advantage -- taking advantage of market inefficiencies. In the case of what Billy Beane was trying to do in 2002, that happened to be "on-base percentage". Now that everyone knows that, if a shrewd general manager wants to use "Moneyball" techniques, he has to identify something that no one else is using, and do it himself.

Beyond that, most modern GMs who use a more analytical approach to building a winner will tell you -- as Theo Epstein made a point of doing when he was introduced as Cubs President of Business Operations on Tuesday -- that you need both good scouting and good statistical analysis to find winning players. Billy Beane would surely agree.

But hey, Tony did say there was "good acting" in the film. And so there was. Maybe he was trying to wrangle himself an invitation to the Oscars, since Moneyball is likely to get quite a few nominations.

This is the danger of rained-out games during the World Series. Reporters and managers get bored, and a manager spends the night eating popcorn in a dark room with his feet stuck to the floor, and comes out of it thinking he's figured out what the movie is about.

Play ball already!

Do you like this post?

22359_1256997499464_1065394778_30839957_2068120_n_medium

Al Yellon

Editor

Al Yellon is a Cubs fan. For that, he hopes you will indulge him. He's seen Cubs failures since 1969, including the agonizingly close playoff misses in 1984 and 2003. For that, at least a bit of... Read full bio


Comments

Display:

On top of that

Neyer retweeted analysis that shows pretty clearly LaRussa is full of crap in his observations. Great manager, total dumbass.

I only take my petz to Bunfeeld Pet Oz-pitzal!

by torridjoe on Oct 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I could see why Tony would be offended. The old guard goes down swinging.

His indignation only illuminates how out of touch La Russa actually is with good managing. He’s become downright quixotic at this stage in his career. Remember, good results do not imply good process. Winning because of La Russa? More like winning despite him.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Oct 27, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Did you know he has a law degree?

Apparently classes at FSU aren’t just ridiculously easy for the football team.
#TLRgenius

by Kalaska on Oct 27, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If something I approve of offends someone like Tony LaRussa,

I tend to think I’m on the right track.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy is a whiny little jerk. I’ve known about his ways since he was White Sox manager.

by Ronald H. Witt on Oct 28, 2011 3:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I had an epiphany during the game last night

LaRussa sort of looks like Charlie Sheen.

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!

by KeepItCopacetic on Oct 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed

39 updates with 130 comments

Like to see major updates on this story in Facebook.

74 updates with 544 comments

Like to see major updates on this story in Facebook.
Yahoo_full_count Yahoo_fantasy_baseball

Anaheim, CA, USA; Los Angeles Angels first baseman Mark Trumbo celebrates after hitting a home run against the Toronto Blue Jays at Angel Stadium of Anaheim.  The Angels won 6-2. Credit: Kelvin Kuo-US PRESSWIRE

The Angel Who's Improved

Los Angeles, CA, USA; Los Angeles Dodgers catcher A.J. Ellis gets brushed back by a pitch as Colorado Rockies catcher Ramon Hernandez catches the ball at Dodger Stadium. Dodgers won 11-4. Credit: Jayne Kamin-Oncea-US PRESSWIRE

A Decade Of Patience, Patience

CHICAGO, IL: Danny Duffy #23 of the Kansas City Royals leaves the game against the Chicago White Sox in the first inning with an injury at U.S. Cellular Field in Chicago, Illinois.  (Photo by David Banks/Getty Images)

The Royals And Pitcher Development